Red Arrows Pilot Accident?

Herr-Berbunch · 11-08-11, 09:47 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15640104

Reports of refuelling incident, and/or ground ejection with parachute failure.

Not a great year

Oberon · 11-08-11, 09:53 AM

Oh man, not again...terrible news. They've had such a good record too.

Hope the pilot makes a full recovery.

HunterICX · 11-08-11, 10:56 AM

Aye...let's hope they don't keep this trend up

hopes for a full recovery of the pilot.

HunterICX

Herr-Berbunch · 11-08-11, 12:53 PM

Confirmed dead!

RIP whoever it is.

Oberon · 11-08-11, 12:54 PM

Sadly the pilot has died.

Eyewitnesses report seeing a Hawk with a smashed canopy and hearing a loud bang. An mis-ejection perhaps? Too early to tell.
(EDIT) The RAF has confirmed a zero zero ejection. Perhaps a chute failure?

Irregardless, RIP to a fine pilot.

Osmium Steele · 11-08-11, 01:32 PM

I thought the Hawk was designed to eject through the canopy, since it was used in a low altitude role. Still kinda rough on a pilot.

Oberon · 11-08-11, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osmium Steele

I thought the Hawk was designed to eject through the canopy, since it was used in a low altitude role. Still kinda rough on a pilot.

I think the Hawk has a zero zero system. The canopy also has an explosive egress system.

Yes, just checked, the Hawk is fitted with the Mark 10 Martin Baker seat which I do believe is zero zero, so either something went wrong with the seat or it happened in an enclosed area and the pilot hit the ceiling. Either way a tragic incident.

Oberon · 11-08-11, 02:28 PM

Judging by this pic from the Daily Fail the aircraft was outside when the ejection occurred so that rules out collision with ceiling.

Latest rumours at pprune are either a parachute fail or canopy explosives fail. I'd tend to lean towards the former.

I also found this poem on pprune in their thread, thought it apt:

One More Roll

We toast our hearty Comrades who have

Fallen from the skies, and were gently

Caught by God’s own hands to be with

Him on high

To dwell away the soaring clouds they’ve

Known so well before, from victory roll

To tail chase at heaven’s door

And as we fly among them there, we’re

Sure to hear their plea, “Take care

My friend, watch your six, and do one

More roll for me”

Schroeder · 11-08-11, 02:57 PM

Definitely not a good year for the Red Arrows.

Jimbuna · 11-08-11, 03:19 PM

Quite probably a parachute failure....tragic

Herr-Berbunch · 11-08-11, 04:48 PM

I don't know - squippers are meticulous in their work as lives really do depend on them, whereas the miniture detonation chord in the canopy can't be tested! My early money is on MDC failure.

Nice poem.

Tchocky · 11-08-11, 05:09 PM

This is a real tragedy

RIP

gimpy117 · 11-08-11, 05:16 PM

why did he eject in the first place?

Oberon · 11-08-11, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117

why did he eject in the first place?

No reason I could see of that he would do it deliberately, and he probably wasn't exactly new to the cockpit of a jet aircraft so it's unlikely that he'd have pulled the lever by mistake. However, like Herr B says, the maintenance of the ejection seats is usually first rate, so chances are it could be a one in a million malfunction.

danny60 · 11-09-11, 07:04 AM

The red arrows have now been grounded pending a full investigation
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15655865

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Confirmed dead! RIP whoever it is. __________________

11-08-11, 01:32 PM	#6
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Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Definitely not a good year for the Red Arrows. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

11-08-11, 09:53 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Oh man, not again...terrible news. They've had such a good record too. Hope the pilot makes a full recovery.

11-08-11, 12:54 PM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Sadly the pilot has died. Eyewitnesses report seeing a Hawk with a smashed canopy and hearing a loud bang. An mis-ejection perhaps? Too early to tell. (EDIT) The RAF has confirmed a zero zero ejection. Perhaps a chute failure? Irregardless, RIP to a fine pilot.

11-08-11, 02:28 PM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Judging by this pic from the Daily Fail the aircraft was outside when the ejection occurred so that rules out collision with ceiling. Latest rumours at pprune are either a parachute fail or canopy explosives fail. I'd tend to lean towards the former. I also found this poem on pprune in their thread, thought it apt: One More Roll We toast our hearty Comrades who have Fallen from the skies, and were gently Caught by God’s own hands to be with Him on high To dwell away the soaring clouds they’ve Known so well before, from victory roll To tail chase at heaven’s door And as we fly among them there, we’re Sure to hear their plea, “Take care My friend, watch your six, and do one More roll for me”

11-08-11, 03:19 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,819 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Quite probably a parachute failure....tragic __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I don't know - squippers are meticulous in their work as lives really do depend on them, whereas the miniture detonation chord in the canopy can't be tested! My early money is on MDC failure. Nice poem. __________________

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	This is a real tragedy RIP __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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danny60 A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: You know, I have no idea where I am... Posts: 73 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	The red arrows have now been grounded pending a full investigation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15655865 __________________ Running at three-bell flank ahead.