And Yet Again The Frustration

Sailor Steve · 10-10-11, 09:55 PM

Re-installed after the last problems. Been running a new career, playing a couple hours a night. Sank seven small ships over a five-day period. Ran into a large convoy. Made the perfect setup. Went to periscope depth. Sank to 20 meters. Sank to 30 meters. Ordered back up to periscope depth and went to flank speed. Sank to 40 meters. Sank to 50 meters. Got out of the game and once again I'm done with it.

I can't run SH3 the way I want to. SH4 is the better game, but doesn't have any of the good stuff I love in SH3. No better harbors, no canal locks, no ship names.

Once again I'm done.

Luno · 10-10-11, 10:17 PM

???

What happened? I don't really understand.

kylania · 10-10-11, 11:28 PM

Was it damage or a realism mod that caused that? Or that horrible "ever falling" bug?

Sailor Steve · 10-10-11, 11:33 PM

No damage. No problems. Just dive the Type IX and it keeps on diving. It wouldn't be so bad if it happened the first day, but a month-and-a-half into the patrol, set out in August and it's late September and it's the first time I had to dive.

postalbyke · 10-10-11, 11:36 PM

Did you order a crash dive at any time during that session?
Recommend the V15E bug fixer by... ummm...
drat... here!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...74225&page=157
It's a good hook-up and fixes two of my problems in the same go, no "mod" to load

Sailor Steve · 10-10-11, 11:39 PM

Nope. This was the first time I dove the entire patrol.

Maybe it's the whole "Type IX in August" thing. I'll try a patrol in the old Type II. What have I got to lose?

Or maybe it's a "malfunction" thing.

Fish In The Water · 10-11-11, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Once again I'm done.

Sorry to hear that Steve. I know it can be frustrating at times, but for me the good outweighs the bad. Hope at some point you have a change of heart as it'd be good to have you back in the pack!

HW3 · 10-11-11, 12:59 AM

That is a weird one, I've never run into that before.

Just out of curiosity, how did you order periscope depth? Was it with the "p" key on the keyboard, or the in game shortcut button, or some other way?

Luno · 10-11-11, 04:40 AM

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Or maybe it's a "malfunction" thing.

As far as I know only SH Commander offers malfunctions and sabotage. I for the life of me can't picture a saboteur who would jam the dive-planes or damage the buoyancy regulators while still on the boat (you did say it was a month into the patrol).

Sailor Steve · 10-11-11, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

Sorry to hear that Steve. I know it can be frustrating at times, but for me the good outweighs the bad. Hope at some point you have a change of heart as it'd be good to have you back in the pack!

I have a change of heart three or four times every day. I'm quick to anger and just as quick to feel like an idiot for doing so. I woke up at 0530 this morning with ideas about trying a few quick 'practice' careers to check different boats in the same situation.

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Originally Posted by HW3

That is a weird one, I've never run into that before.

Just out of curiosity, how did you order periscope depth? Was it with the "p" key on the keyboard, or the in game shortcut button, or some other way?

'P' key, always. I never use anything else. As I say, I'm going to do some testing to see if it's just the Type IX. And then I'll reload the game once again, and test some more.

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Originally Posted by Luno

As far as I know only SH Commander offers malfunctions and sabotage. I for the life of me can't picture a saboteur who would jam the dive-planes or damage the buoyancy regulators while still on the boat (you did say it was a month into the patrol).

Of course I use Commander. I consider it more important than any supermod. At this stage of the war I have malfunctions enabled, but not sabotage, based on the idea that saboteurs in German ports in 1939 were unlikely. I'll reload that career first and see what happens. Oh, and as for "a month into the patrol", this was the first time I actually took the boat under. Silly me, not doing a test dive every day.

We'll see what happens. Meanwhile I was motivated to do a little research on August 19 patrols and their outcomes, for which I started another thread.

U-Falke · 10-11-11, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I have a change of heart three or four times every day. I'm quick to anger and just as quick to feel like an idiot for doing so. I woke up at 0530 this morning with ideas about trying a few quick 'practice' careers to check different boats in the same situation.

'P' key, always. I never use anything else. As I say, I'm going to do some testing to see if it's just the Type IX. And then I'll reload the game once again, and test some more.

Of course I use Commander. I consider it more important than any supermod. At this stage of the war I have malfunctions enabled, but not sabotage, based on the idea that saboteurs in German ports in 1939 were unlikely. I'll reload that career first and see what happens. Oh, and as for "a month into the patrol", this was the first time I actually took the boat under. Silly me, not doing a test dive every day.

We'll see what happens. Meanwhile I was motivated to do a little research on August 19 patrols and their outcomes, for which I started another thread.

It happens if you have a broken hydroplane... maybe a malfunction.
I have a type IXB but malfunctions I leave disabled.
Had a similar problem after being damaged from something I dont remember.
`Das boot`needed to run at 4-5knt to keep it`s depth but still the trim showed a downed aft. There was no flooding anymore.

Anyway... first dive? Did you submit your boat to sea trials? Test max depth, underwater range and buoyance after reaching an area deep enough !

Try start a new patrol and perform some tests before the action time

HW3 · 10-11-11, 09:16 AM

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'P' key, always. I never use anything else.

I suspected as much but, wanted to be sure.

soopaman2 · 10-11-11, 09:22 AM

This happened to me too. I always thought of Das Boot with the busted dive planes. But the role playing element wears off after it happens a few times and destroy a great patrol. Funny enough it always seems to happen in an IX type for me as well.

flag4 · 10-11-11, 09:25 AM

...SS, try without malfunctions - if something is broken it may have the effect you speek of. ??

Sailor Steve · 10-11-11, 09:56 AM

That's not something you can turn off mid-patrol. The career is as good as lost.

10-10-11, 09:55 PM	#1
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	And Yet Again The Frustration Re-installed after the last problems. Been running a new career, playing a couple hours a night. Sank seven small ships over a five-day period. Ran into a large convoy. Made the perfect setup. Went to periscope depth. Sank to 20 meters. Sank to 30 meters. Ordered back up to periscope depth and went to flank speed. Sank to 40 meters. Sank to 50 meters. Got out of the game and once again I'm done with it. I can't run SH3 the way I want to. SH4 is the better game, but doesn't have any of the good stuff I love in SH3. No better harbors, no canal locks, no ship names. Once again I'm done. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-10-11, 10:17 PM	#2
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	??? What happened? I don't really understand. __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

10-10-11, 11:28 PM	#3
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Was it damage or a realism mod that caused that? Or that horrible "ever falling" bug? __________________

10-10-11, 11:33 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	No damage. No problems. Just dive the Type IX and it keeps on diving. It wouldn't be so bad if it happened the first day, but a month-and-a-half into the patrol, set out in August and it's late September and it's the first time I had to dive. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-10-11, 11:36 PM	#5
postalbyke Chief Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the past... Posts: 321 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 1	Did you order a crash dive at any time during that session? Recommend the V15E bug fixer by... ummm... drat... here! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...74225&page=157 It's a good hook-up and fixes two of my problems in the same go, no "mod" to load __________________ God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. -Voltaire

10-10-11, 11:39 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Nope. This was the first time I dove the entire patrol. Maybe it's the whole "Type IX in August" thing. I'll try a patrol in the old Type II. What have I got to lose? Or maybe it's a "malfunction" thing. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-11-11, 12:59 AM	#8
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	That is a weird one, I've never run into that before. Just out of curiosity, how did you order periscope depth? Was it with the "p" key on the keyboard, or the in game shortcut button, or some other way? __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

10-11-11, 09:22 AM	#13
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	This happened to me too. I always thought of Das Boot with the busted dive planes. But the role playing element wears off after it happens a few times and destroy a great patrol. Funny enough it always seems to happen in an IX type for me as well. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

10-11-11, 09:25 AM	#14
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	...SS, try without malfunctions - if something is broken it may have the effect you speek of. ?? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

10-11-11, 09:56 AM	#15
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	That's not something you can turn off mid-patrol. The career is as good as lost. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo