Oh the media..lol

[Bubblehead1980]

Love watching the media squirm as Herman Cain rises in the polls.Every liberal commentator tries to downplay what is happening because they are afraid, just great to watch them try to save face lol. They want Perry or Romney, Romney is a dud and won't motivate the party, Perry is a fool who will push away independents.Cain is rising for a reason, because he is real.They are trying to say he is on a book tour instead of the campaign and that his candidacy is a PR stunt lol, they know the book is part of the campaign but just want to pretend because they know he could bring Barry down.Nothing like watching liberal media rats squirm

[Hottentot]

Fun that you have fun.

Fun that you have fun.

Its always fun on planet bubble, it what they have been putting in the water.

[AVGWarhawk]

Cain could do well if he keeps his focus. As far as his book tour, the book is top 10 at Amazon as of today. Many say he is giving up campaigning for a month to handle a book tour. The books title. "This is Herman Cain: My Journey to the White House". Sounds like a book tour/campaigning strategy to me. And what a nice way to finance his campaign I say. Herman is making it very interesting.

[Tchocky]

Romney's serious and intelligent, but also misguided and slightly desperate. Perry is ignorant in the most insidious way. Cain is...silly. I realise he earnestly believes what he's going on about, but when he advocates for 3-page-bills and a return to the Gold Standard, I can't read him any other way. I'd call his book title charitably aspirational, and realistically delusional.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Romney's serious and intelligent, but also misguided and slightly desperate. Perry is ignorant in the most insidious way. Cain is...silly. I realise he earnestly believes what he's going on about, but when he advocates for 3-page-bills and a return to the Gold Standard, I can't read him any other way. I'd call his book title charitably aspirational, and realistically delusional.

Where does Obama stand IYO?

3 page bills sure beat 1900 page bills full of pork that no one reads but all vote on and pass.

What standard should we go instead of gold? Rice?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Where does Obama stand IYO?

3 page bills sure beat 1900 page bills full of pork that no one reads but all vote on and pass.

What standard should we go instead of gold? Rice?

False alternatives.

A set of stereo instructions is not three pages long. I've cooked recipes that were more than three pages long. To honestly advocate that a law which will affect millions of people in millions of different circumstances be three pages long is silly.

And a gold standard in inherently inflexible when it comes to monetary policy and presents significant problems to a globalized economy. No country on earth is on the gold standard. That should tell you something.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

False alternatives.

A set of stereo instructions is not three pages long. I've cooked recipes that were more than three pages long. To honestly advocate that a law which will affect millions of people in millions of different circumstances be three pages long is silly.

And a gold standard in inherently inflexible when it comes to monetary policy. No country on earth is on the gold standard as it is a global economy these days. That should tell you something.

Yes, a 1900+ healthcare bill unread because Pelosie wanted to get home for Christmas is much better.

Just answer the question...what would be better for the standard than gold? Wheat? Pork bellies? Number of posts at Subsim?

[Armistead]

The reasons bills are so long now is they must deal with every legal angle, if they don't lawyers in court will write the bills, instead of lawyers in congress.

[AVGWarhawk]

Amendments.

The bills are long because additional pork is added.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes, a 1900+ healthcare bill unread because Pelosie wanted to get home for Christmas is much better.

Just answer the question...what would be better for the standard than gold? Wheat? Pork bellies? Number of posts at Subsim?

You mean you can't hide your pet projects in a 3 page bill?

The >1900 page bills are the shovel ready jobs for the lawyers.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

You mean you can't hide your pet projects in a 3 page bill?

The >1900 page bills are the shovel ready jobs for the lawyers.

Good one!

[AVGWarhawk]

So here we have a guy (Cain) that wants to ( KISS) kept it simple stupid and he is seen as some sort of lunatic.

[nikimcbee]

A set of stereo instructions is not three pages long. I've cooked recipes that were more than three pages long. To honestly advocate that a law which will affect millions of people in millions of different circumstances be three pages long is silly.

That's because half of the instructions are "don't put the bag on you head, etc", then everything is multilingual. Just spliting hairs though.

I think I agree with you (mookie) on the gold standard issue, but I don't know enough about the part of economics to really say much. I would think that there's not enough gold for everybody to use it as their standard.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Where does Obama stand IYO?

Disappointing overall. A combination of believing that he could split the Congressional difference between a mostly cohesive Democratic Party and increasingly reactionary GOP that wasn't interested at all - and an overestimation of the power of the executive in such an ideologically divided government. I suppose that the ascendancy of the Tea Party in the House wasn't to be foreseen when he was campaigning, this combined with the heightened expectations (everybody's fault I guess) after inauguration made the 2010 House election results a real nasty surprise.

Obama has also kept some of the worst facets of the Bush Administration in practice. This one is interesting to me because of the difference between the cack-handed way the previous administration handled the so-called War On Terror, and the results that have been shown under this administration. Would there have been so much uproar about civil liberties etc had people like Bin-Laden and Awlaki been killed in May-October 2003? I'm not sure. Instead we had 6 years of politicised rubbish. I'd like to think I'd still be aghast at extralegal activities, but I can't deny that it was a lot easier to criticise Bush, the guy made it easy.

3 page bills sure beat 1900 page bills full of pork that no one reads but all vote on and pass.

I think Cain was trying to appeal to the sentiment in your post. Nobody likes pork* or legislators who rubberstamp bills, but Cain's remarks show that he either doesn't understand that governing a nation of 300+million prople can be complex, or that he does understand it but believes his prospective voters don't or don't wish to.

*Regarding the pork - look how many Representatives campaigned on no-earmarks etc, but end up pleading their case once their own districts come into play? I'm not saying they're wrong to try and get money into their district, after all many earmarks and supplementary requests can be very beneficial to strugglin economies, which is exactly one of the things that government can do to help. I just think that the pledges were ill-thought through at best, and abusive at worst.

What standard should we go instead of gold? Rice?

Stay on fiat money. Tying a currency to a precious metal only ensures that inflationary and deflationary dangers are now random products of commodities markets. Instead of having $50 bill that you know will buy $50 worth of goods adjusted for normal market-economy-based rates of inflatio/deflation, you have a $50 bill that will buy as many goods as the government mandated equivalent value of gold will buy. All you're doing is tying the value of your money to either the random value of a random metal, or what the government thinks you should be able to buy. And the second one runs into an awful lot of trouble with the first.

Currencies are volatile enough in their current stable state, if you get me.