Carriers at War available for download!

flintlock · 06-07-07, 06:41 PM

For those interested, Carriers at War is now available for download on Matrix's site!

Direct link

Edit: updated link.

tedhealy · 06-07-07, 06:59 PM

WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Thanks for the heads up.

edit: seems not to be there anymore, or at least I don't see it

edit2: ok, now I do. Had to refresh the page a few times.

bradclark1 · 06-07-07, 08:42 PM

$50.00!
I'll wait till hell freezes over or the price comes down.

I see Tiller has his games on Matrix now. His games came down $15.

CCIP · 06-07-07, 09:18 PM

Gah, I wasn't expecting it to be out for another week.

See if I can borrow a fifty off my brother

flintlock · 06-07-07, 10:11 PM

CCIP, just ask him nicely if he can contribute much needed resources to the war effort.

NefariousKoel · 06-07-07, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1

$50.00!
I'll wait till hell freezes over or the price comes down.

I see Tiller has his games on Matrix now. His games came down $15.

The first 3 of the series, Brad. All-in-one.

Sh*t, I paid much more than that for each initial release without any add-on packs or additions a few years ago.

Lagger123987 · 06-08-07, 12:08 AM

Aww man, thought it was a demo!

tedhealy · 06-08-07, 01:06 AM

Played thru the Pearl Harbor and Coral Sea scenarios and loved every minute.

Use Pearl Harbor as the Japanese as your tutorial I'd suggest. Very easy and it helps you get the hang of coordinating air strikes.

I then played Coral Sea as the US and got my butt kicked every time until I started using some strategy.

What really impressed me was that I played Coral Sea 5 times in a row and each time the AI did something a little bit different. Sometimes they pushed their carriers up to actively hunt for me, sometimes they held back and seemed to be trying to lure me in (which I continually fell for the first few times). I'm having a blast with it.

Only complaints would be lack of carry over between scenarios and the limited number of scenarios. The limited number can be remedied somewhat because a scenario editor is included.

azn_132 · 06-08-07, 02:33 AM

Lookin forward to it!

bradclark1 · 06-08-07, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedhealy

Played thru the Pearl Harbor and Coral Sea scenarios and loved every minute.

Use Pearl Harbor as the Japanese as your tutorial I'd suggest. Very easy and it helps you get the hang of coordinating air strikes.

I then played Coral Sea as the US and got my butt kicked every time until I started using some strategy.

What really impressed me was that I played Coral Sea 5 times in a row and each time the AI did something a little bit different. Sometimes they pushed their carriers up to actively hunt for me, sometimes they held back and seemed to be trying to lure me in (which I continually fell for the first few times). I'm having a blast with it.

Only complaints would be lack of carry over between scenarios and the limited number of scenarios. The limited number can be remedied somewhat because a scenario editor is included.

Well maybe I won't wait till hell freezes over.

flintlock · 06-08-07, 12:03 PM

bradclark1, Carriers at War is a seriously fun game, honestly. Too bad there's no demo (or any plans for one at this stage) you could try out--I have a sneaking suspicion you would most likely enjoy the game. With respect to the price: niche title for a niche market by a small independent developer choosing to have their labor of love published be a small fish, as far as publishers go. Personally, I think it provides good value when you consider the big picture.

C'mon sailor--get those feet wet!

eddie · 06-08-07, 03:50 PM

Sorry, no disrespect towards Matrix, but won't pay $50 for it! I got the Complete Carriers at War for under $30, designed by Roger Keating and Ian Trout. Runs on anything form Win98 to XP. And these are the original series, CAW 1 covers the first half of the war in the PTO, CAW 2 covers more of the second half. Also has new scenarios for the ETO and MTO, along with the Construction Kit to design your own stuff. Still has the original graphics and sounds, but who cares, thats what I had so much fun with when they were released on floppies,LOL

The great AI programming is still there, and I have gone through the same type of thing when using the Coral Sea mission, got suckered in, and lost my carriers the first few times too!

Just do a Google search for Complete Carriers at War, you find all the info you need! Plus it comes with a 200 page manual, personalized with your name on it!

Can't see paying an extra $20 for a few better looking renditions of ships and ac!
But, each to his own!

flintlock · 06-08-07, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie

Sorry, no disrespect towards Matrix, but won't pay $50 for it!

I think it's quite safe to say neither Matrix or SSG are offended. It's your money and nobody is forcing you to purchase something you don't want. Personally I enjoy titles like these and like to support the developers. This way they may be more inclined to continue coding quality software like this in the future.

Quote:

Can't see paying an extra $20 for a few better looking renditions of ships and ac!

Just for clarification, this latest incarnation of Carriers at War is not merely a graphics upgrade. This title has been redesigned and coded from the ground up. You're getting a lot more for that additional $20 than updated graphics. That being said, if you're happy with the older title, that's great--enjoy! It's still a good game.

CCIP · 06-08-07, 04:23 PM

I think we also need to remember that high prices on these games are in large part due to the development demands and limited market. I totally sympathise with smaller publishers doing hardcore titles, and I've never felt sorry for shelling out an above-average amount for an honest sim/wargame. The money goes towards supporting a fragile market, and one in whose survival I'm quite interested.

Still need to gather my finances for this though

eddie · 06-08-07, 11:15 PM

Yes, I hope sales for the new version go well, and everyone enjoys it! Not trying to make Matrix/SSG look bad, by any means, I really enjoy these strategy sim's, always have.

Even the Landbased sims are alot of fun, but can't figure out why games like these are still so high priced? Some by HPS, that have been out for 4 or 5 years, are still around $40 to $50, by now, would think they would be coming down in price.

06-07-07, 06:41 PM	#1
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Carriers at War available for download! For those interested, Carriers at War is now available for download on Matrix's site! Direct link Edit: updated link. Last edited by flintlock; 06-08-07 at 04:23 PM.

06-07-07, 09:18 PM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Gah, I wasn't expecting it to be out for another week. See if I can borrow a fifty off my brother __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-08-07, 02:33 AM	#9
azn_132 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 950 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lookin forward to it! __________________

06-08-07, 04:23 PM	#14
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I think we also need to remember that high prices on these games are in large part due to the development demands and limited market. I totally sympathise with smaller publishers doing hardcore titles, and I've never felt sorry for shelling out an above-average amount for an honest sim/wargame. The money goes towards supporting a fragile market, and one in whose survival I'm quite interested. Still need to gather my finances for this though __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-07-07, 06:59 PM	#2
tedhealy Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA Posts: 772 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Thanks for the heads up. edit: seems not to be there anymore, or at least I don't see it edit2: ok, now I do. Had to refresh the page a few times.

06-07-07, 08:42 PM	#3
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	$50.00! I'll wait till hell freezes over or the price comes down. I see Tiller has his games on Matrix now. His games came down $15.

06-07-07, 10:11 PM	#5
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	CCIP, just ask him nicely if he can contribute much needed resources to the war effort.

06-08-07, 12:08 AM	#7
Lagger123987 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Little Saigon, San Jose, California Posts: 944 Downloads: 323 Uploads: 4	Aww man, thought it was a demo!

06-08-07, 01:06 AM	#8
tedhealy Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO, USA Posts: 772 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Played thru the Pearl Harbor and Coral Sea scenarios and loved every minute. Use Pearl Harbor as the Japanese as your tutorial I'd suggest. Very easy and it helps you get the hang of coordinating air strikes. I then played Coral Sea as the US and got my butt kicked every time until I started using some strategy. What really impressed me was that I played Coral Sea 5 times in a row and each time the AI did something a little bit different. Sometimes they pushed their carriers up to actively hunt for me, sometimes they held back and seemed to be trying to lure me in (which I continually fell for the first few times). I'm having a blast with it. Only complaints would be lack of carry over between scenarios and the limited number of scenarios. The limited number can be remedied somewhat because a scenario editor is included.

06-08-07, 12:03 PM	#11
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	bradclark1, Carriers at War is a seriously fun game, honestly. Too bad there's no demo (or any plans for one at this stage) you could try out--I have a sneaking suspicion you would most likely enjoy the game. With respect to the price: niche title for a niche market by a small independent developer choosing to have their labor of love published be a small fish, as far as publishers go. Personally, I think it provides good value when you consider the big picture. C'mon sailor--get those feet wet!

06-08-07, 03:50 PM	#12
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Sorry, no disrespect towards Matrix, but won't pay $50 for it! I got the Complete Carriers at War for under $30, designed by Roger Keating and Ian Trout. Runs on anything form Win98 to XP. And these are the original series, CAW 1 covers the first half of the war in the PTO, CAW 2 covers more of the second half. Also has new scenarios for the ETO and MTO, along with the Construction Kit to design your own stuff. Still has the original graphics and sounds, but who cares, thats what I had so much fun with when they were released on floppies,LOL The great AI programming is still there, and I have gone through the same type of thing when using the Coral Sea mission, got suckered in, and lost my carriers the first few times too! Just do a Google search for Complete Carriers at War, you find all the info you need! Plus it comes with a 200 page manual, personalized with your name on it! Can't see paying an extra $20 for a few better looking renditions of ships and ac! But, each to his own!

06-08-07, 11:15 PM	#15
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Yes, I hope sales for the new version go well, and everyone enjoys it! Not trying to make Matrix/SSG look bad, by any means, I really enjoy these strategy sim's, always have. Even the Landbased sims are alot of fun, but can't figure out why games like these are still so high priced? Some by HPS, that have been out for 4 or 5 years, are still around $40 to $50, by now, would think they would be coming down in price.