Quick Fix: British subs crash the game

Bungmiester · 08-25-10, 03:48 PM

Have just been cruising in the north sea when my sonarman picked up a warship contact, so I set up an intercept point, and when i got within visual range I discovered it was a British sub which is the first one I have encountered in this game, so I thought I would go listen to its engine noise at the hydraphone staton and it ctd.

I had some mods enabled and disabled them and tryed again and it ctd again so this is nothing todo with mods me thinks..
Has anyone else had this????
It would appear that if your sonarman picks up a warship contact and you go listen to it at the hydraphone staton and you ctd chances are it could be an enemy Sub

PS Big Thanks to the all modding community

CaptainMattJ. · 08-25-10, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bungmiester

Have just been cruising in the north sea when my sonarman picked up a warship contact, so I set up an intercept point, and when i got within visual range I discovered it was a British sub which is the first one I have encountered in this game, so I thought I would go listen to its engine noise at the hydraphone staton and it ctd.

I had some mods enabled and disabled them and tryed again and it ctd again so this is nothing todo with mods me thinks..
Has anyone else had this????
It would appear that if your sonarman picks up a warship contact and you go listen to it at the hydraphone staton and you ctd chances are it could be an enemy Sub

PS Big Thanks to the all modding community

well you could just not listen to its engine. all it is is whoosh woosh and this annoying tone all the time. but those subs are dam hard to hit with a torpedo.

torpedo is overkill though. a torpedo hitting a sub is just gonna pulverize it.
you gotta one vicious sub captain to blow it away with a torpedo. although a deck gun is just as vicious. perhaps letting the enemy off their sub, radioing their position to the enemy, and THEN destroying it would be the "humane" thing to do. although you cant do it in the game...and it would also compromise your poistion. perhaps you use THEIR radio, and claiming they hit a mine or something.

Cerberus62 · 08-27-10, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bungmiester

Have just been cruising in the north sea when my sonarman picked up a warship contact, so I set up an intercept point, and when i got within visual range I discovered it was a British sub which is the first one I have encountered in this game, so I thought I would go listen to its engine noise at the hydraphone staton and it ctd.

I had some mods enabled and disabled them and tryed again and it ctd again so this is nothing todo with mods me thinks..
Has anyone else had this????
It would appear that if your sonarman picks up a warship contact and you go listen to it at the hydraphone staton and you ctd chances are it could be an enemy Sub

PS Big Thanks to the all modding community

Confirming - enemy subs lead to a ctd if you try to pick them up with the hydrophones. Went almost mad in the Mare Nostrum campaign (there are LOTS of U class submarines in the Mediterranean!) until I found the reason for the ctd's that I had there again and again.

To make things worse, SH5 seems to be prone to a ctd while loading a savegame file if there has been an enemy sub in the surrounding area at the time you saved the game.

08-28-10, 11:39 AM

this is a great catch that has probably happened to many who didnt put the connection together

now that its been confirmed by someone else as a repeatable CTD issue, the modders will be looking into it and i hope a fix for it will be found soon

DedEye · 08-29-10, 10:26 AM

Yup,

happened to me yesterday. Spotted a British sub WNW of Scap Flow, dove to peri depth to line up an attack, went to check the bearing on the hydophone and.....CTD!

vickers03 · 08-29-10, 02:08 PM

as a first fix you can delete the file
"NSS_Undine.dsd" in data/Submarine/NSS_Undine

this prevents the game from crashing but
you won't hear anything from the sub.

TheDarkWraith · 08-29-10, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vickers03

as a first fix you can delete the file
"NSS_Undine.dsd" in data/Submarine/NSS_Undine

this prevents the game from crashing but
you won't hear anything from the sub.

that right there says it's time to investigate that file

Krauter · 08-29-10, 10:41 PM

I had the same problem, however I went from NavMap to external cam and I crashed. I think it is whenever you switch a view ie: Map to 1st person/external, 1st person to external/nav, etc

Captain America · 09-06-10, 04:04 PM

I don't like these types of bugs...

Can someone test it to confirm if its fixed?

EDIT: File removed

Oby · 09-07-10, 08:21 AM

Hi all!

As I was also very disturbing by this annoying game bug,I decided to do something about it...

I came to partial solution...Hydrophone now works as it should...Only thing that is missing is the hydrophone sound of sub propelles - submerged or not...So you must relay on your hydrophone operater and his reports...If anybody from more experienced modders would fix the hyd sound of sub,we would have properly working hydrophone...Thanks.

Here's what I ddid:

1. Backup original files first!!!
2. Open Undine.GR file with Goblin editor and merge it with .sds file.
3. Add two new soundsources(you can copy/paste from the other subs)
I.Submarine.EngineDieselInSub - identifier: DieselInsideSub
II.Submarine.EngineElectricInSub - identifier:ElectricInsideSub
4. Save and you won't have CDT anymore..

Abd_von_Mumit · 09-07-10, 10:35 AM

Seems CaptainAmerica solved the issue

(see post #9), but I haven't been able to find any British sub to confirm his solution works. So instead of looking for workarounds try applying his solution and check (and tell us) if it works for you.

vickers03 · 09-07-10, 01:14 PM

can't access mediafire but here's a single mission
with a brit sub ahead http://www.filefront.com/17271799/Feind_U-boot.7z

Captain America · 09-07-10, 01:38 PM

The attempt I made was a very quick one. I've never used goblin yet (still have my sh4 shoes on), all I did was do a quick compare with a hex editor and took a shot in the dark since that was the only main difference that stood out. At quick glance it appeared that all the controllers were ok...but I could have missed something.

Oby's solution is much more comprehensive and it sounds like that may be the solution. Now that vickers kindly provided a test mission I'll try out my fix and then mess around with Oby's solution.

EDIT: It appears that my fix doesn't work. Trying out Oby's solution with mine combined. Will report back shortly.

Bungmiester · 09-07-10, 02:41 PM

Well i hope a fix is found soon for this annoying bug as the sub contact was marked up as a normal warship contact on the nav map and seeing as my sonarman isn't the brightest spark in the Kriegsmarine I decided to check it myself on the Hydraphone and wham ctd

,
Would it be possible for someone to make the fix JSME friendly

vickers03 · 09-07-10, 03:46 PM

another idea would be to rebuild the .dsd file from
scratch, don't know if goblin can handle this.

08-25-10, 03:48 PM	#1
Bungmiester Watch Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 18 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Quick Fix: British subs crash the game Have just been cruising in the north sea when my sonarman picked up a warship contact, so I set up an intercept point, and when i got within visual range I discovered it was a British sub which is the first one I have encountered in this game, so I thought I would go listen to its engine noise at the hydraphone staton and it ctd. I had some mods enabled and disabled them and tryed again and it ctd again so this is nothing todo with mods me thinks.. Has anyone else had this???? It would appear that if your sonarman picks up a warship contact and you go listen to it at the hydraphone staton and you ctd chances are it could be an enemy Sub PS Big Thanks to the all modding community

08-29-10, 10:26 AM	#5
DedEye Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Edmonton Posts: 133 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	Yup, happened to me yesterday. Spotted a British sub WNW of Scap Flow, dove to peri depth to line up an attack, went to check the bearing on the hydophone and.....CTD! __________________ U-Boot Spezial Cocktail......neidisch?

09-07-10, 08:21 AM	#10
Oby Medic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BH7853 Posts: 169 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	Partial Brittish Sub CDT Fix Hi all! As I was also very disturbing by this annoying game bug,I decided to do something about it... I came to partial solution...Hydrophone now works as it should...Only thing that is missing is the hydrophone sound of sub propelles - submerged or not...So you must relay on your hydrophone operater and his reports...If anybody from more experienced modders would fix the hyd sound of sub,we would have properly working hydrophone...Thanks. Here's what I ddid: 1. Backup original files first!!! 2. Open Undine.GR file with Goblin editor and merge it with .sds file. 3. Add two new soundsources(you can copy/paste from the other subs) I.Submarine.EngineDieselInSub - identifier: DieselInsideSub II.Submarine.EngineElectricInSub - identifier:ElectricInsideSub 4. Save and you won't have CDT anymore..

09-07-10, 10:35 AM	#11
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	Seems CaptainAmerica solved the issue (see post #9), but I haven't been able to find any British sub to confirm his solution works. So instead of looking for workarounds try applying his solution and check (and tell us) if it works for you. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

09-07-10, 01:38 PM	#13
Captain America Planesman Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Good Ole Red White & Blue Posts: 193 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	The attempt I made was a very quick one. I've never used goblin yet (still have my sh4 shoes on), all I did was do a quick compare with a hex editor and took a shot in the dark since that was the only main difference that stood out. At quick glance it appeared that all the controllers were ok...but I could have missed something. Oby's solution is much more comprehensive and it sounds like that may be the solution. Now that vickers kindly provided a test mission I'll try out my fix and then mess around with Oby's solution. EDIT: It appears that my fix doesn't work. Trying out Oby's solution with mine combined. Will report back shortly. Last edited by Captain America; 09-07-10 at 02:13 PM.

08-28-10, 11:39 AM	#4
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	this is a great catch that has probably happened to many who didnt put the connection together now that its been confirmed by someone else as a repeatable CTD issue, the modders will be looking into it and i hope a fix for it will be found soon

08-29-10, 02:08 PM	#6
vickers03 Pooped from posting Join Date: May 2007 Location: germany Posts: 999 Downloads: 712 Uploads: 37	as a first fix you can delete the file "NSS_Undine.dsd" in data/Submarine/NSS_Undine this prevents the game from crashing but you won't hear anything from the sub.

09-06-10, 04:04 PM	#9
Captain America Planesman Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Good Ole Red White & Blue Posts: 193 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	I don't like these types of bugs... Can someone test it to confirm if its fixed? EDIT: File removed Last edited by Captain America; 09-07-10 at 06:38 PM.

09-07-10, 01:14 PM	#12
vickers03 Pooped from posting Join Date: May 2007 Location: germany Posts: 999 Downloads: 712 Uploads: 37	can't access mediafire but here's a single mission with a brit sub ahead http://www.filefront.com/17271799/Feind_U-boot.7z

09-07-10, 02:41 PM	#14
Bungmiester Watch Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 18 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Well i hope a fix is found soon for this annoying bug as the sub contact was marked up as a normal warship contact on the nav map and seeing as my sonarman isn't the brightest spark in the Kriegsmarine I decided to check it myself on the Hydraphone and wham ctd, Would it be possible for someone to make the fix JSME friendly

09-07-10, 03:46 PM	#15
vickers03 Pooped from posting Join Date: May 2007 Location: germany Posts: 999 Downloads: 712 Uploads: 37	another idea would be to rebuild the .dsd file from scratch, don't know if goblin can handle this.