Brave Haye comes Up Short

Jimbuna · 07-02-11, 05:45 PM

For any boxing fans out there:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_7015757,00.html

VipertheSniper · 07-02-11, 06:31 PM

Damn I actually wanted to see that fight, but had other responsibilties. Thanks for the link

Jimbuna · 07-02-11, 06:59 PM

Your welcome...it was 'pay per view' here in the UK.

Bakkels · 07-02-11, 07:11 PM

Seriously? Here it was broadcast for free... And there's usually no boxing on tv here EVER. Well accept for K1 of course, but not the regular boxing. Anyway, I'm no boxing expert by any means, but I found this really fun to watch. As a complete newbie and outsider, it was a really exciting match. As I understood it, Hayes normally fights in a different (lighter) weight class? Well I give him credits then for taking on this guy. Must have been at least 20 centimeters taller. Now how in the hell do you get a punch in then?
What amazed me btw were Hayes' reflexes; the way he dodged a lot of punches without any cover, just by moving his head. I was impressed. But Klitschko won fair and square imo.

kranz · 07-03-11, 02:42 AM

too much dancing in the ring without any significant punches. Too bad, bcoz I really wanted to see Klitschko's face smashed. The way he fights is everything but interesting. On the other hand Haye appeared to be all talk and when I read a minute ago the reasons he gave for losing the fight (toe injury suffered 3 weeks before the fight) I lol'd hard. Unfortunately another boring fight.

EzioAuditore · 07-03-11, 02:58 AM

Im glad that klitscho won becose ,how do they say in america? hayes got alot of talking like Paul Delgado when Zaveck beat a **** out of him
Too bad that Hayes wasnt knock outed becose he is realy strong with his tounge

BossMark · 07-03-11, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

it was 'pay per view' here in the UK.

Yeah sky can stick their pay per view where the sun dont shine robbing bastards that they are

. I was hoping that Haye would have won though.

Feuer Frei! · 07-03-11, 04:07 AM

When you look at the tale of the tape, Klitschko outscored Hayes in every stat.
And in relation to Hayes shooting his mouth off, well, that's called "show".
Good, experienced boxers won't be put off by garbage talk, they all do it, some more, some less.
It comes with the sport.

Skybird · 07-03-11, 04:16 AM

I saw the fight in full on German (free) TV. It was probably the best heavyweight fight of the last years.

Klitschko did not hit with his killer jab although he unpacked his right ram more often and earlier than he usually does, and Haye defended impressively by actinbg very agile and swinging his head and chest left and right and back like a cobra, even in the last round. Both boxers were showing top fitness. But in return Haye was unable to deliver any threats, he tried, but indeed only made hay with his even pre-announced swingers. He was agile and fast, but that was not enough. In the first third, they all in all were even, but in the last third Klitschko more and more often scored clear hits, nevertheless had to be on his guard even in the last round. Just on two or three occasions when he had to move backwards to avoid a sudden assault by Haye one thought that maybe Haye could land a lucky hit. In most of the fight Haye lacked the means to get around Klitschko's defence. However, he was able to almost neutralise Klitschko'S advantage in arm's length. Can't remember a fight when that Klitschko fired short of his opponents face so often.

Haye evaded Klitschko pushing him down by letting himself fall to the ground very, very often. That may be clever, but that his corner complained to the referee and the ref in the next round punished Klitschko with one point, was a bias in decision therefore. The ref tried to repair that later, when Haye once again fell to the ground over nothing - and got counted at. Haye clearly eyed assistance from the ref - it caught my attention how very often he looked at the ref.

The win for Kitschko is okay, all in all he was better, and showed Haye how incredibly difficult it is to get inside Klitschko's jab (and that jab alone is a threat so menacing that not even a fast boxer like Haye can afford to play around with it). The decision of the three scoring referees underlines that, it was much clearer a decision than I expected.

I also like that Haye lost. He behaved like an azz and overstepped that thin red line several times before the fight. Such bigmouths I laugh at when they finally lose. However, I also must say he fought very well. But he needs to work on his behavior. That he let the audience and the TV broadcasters wait for over 20 minutes, once again illustrated his megalomania. The president of the event said it will have financial consequences for him, for he was being told for the better before the fight not to play any games like that.

Solid win-by-points for Klitschko - nothing to criticise in his performance.

German TV announced 16.3million people having watched the fight live on TV. That is a new record here.

Jimbuna · 07-03-11, 04:31 AM

Long before the fight Haye announced he would be retiring in October...suprise suprise, after the fight he announced that he is 'reconsidering' his future.

Sounds like someone thinking off one more financial payday to me!!

kranz · 07-03-11, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Sounds like someone thinking off one more financial payday to me!!

..but who is not? When you can get loads of money for being K.O'ed in the first round boxing is Eldorado even for those who are better entertainers than boxers.

Ok, kids who obviously haven't seen the fight invaded this thread so gotta retreat.
And yeah, best fight evah...

EzioAuditore · 07-03-11, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

When you look at the tale of the tape, Klitschko outscored Hayes in every stat.
And in relation to Hayes shooting his mouth off, well, that's called "show".
Good, experienced boxers won't be put off by garbage talk, they all do it, some more, some less.
It comes with the sport.

nope.. not all experienced boxers talk **** look dejan zaveck he doesent talk $hit becose he knows that this wont help him those US and UK boxers are Garbage all full of steroid and this $hit and they cant close mouth
Im just happy that US and UK are losing they are 100% liers
Why did US and UK go in Lybia becose of OIL and nothing else..

I call US and UK boxers steroid junkies except the Mike Tyson

Feuer Frei! · 07-03-11, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

those US and UK boxers are Garbage and they cant close mouth

It's not just boxers from those countries, a certain Anthony Mundine comes to mind, Australian members will know who i'm talking about.

Quote:

Why did US and UK go in Lybia becose of OIL and nothing else..

wrong thread, me thinks

Jimbuna · 07-03-11, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

nope.. not all experienced boxers talk **** look dejan zaveck he doesent talk $hit becose he knows that this wont help him those US and UK boxers are Garbage all full of steroid and this $hit and they cant close mouth
Im just happy that US and UK are losing they are 100% liers
Why did US and UK go in Lybia becose of OIL and nothing else..

I call US and UK boxers steroid junkies except the Mike Tyson

It is patently obvious what your opinion of US and UK boxers is....and you are entitled to said opinion even if it does appear a little vitriolic to some (myself included).

Please remember this is simply an exchange of views and opinions on last nights fight.

You may also care to look over the list of previous world champions at all weights/levels....I think you'll find numerous US and UK title holders.

EzioAuditore · 07-03-11, 05:31 AM

I dont give a fk about US and UK..Slavic countrys leads the way

Mate Parlov,Dejan Zaveck,Vladimir Klicko those are boxers you want more "proper" boxers?

Btw Feuer Frei why is this off topic? im trying to say that boxers are liers like goverment

07-02-11, 05:45 PM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Brave Haye comes Up Short For any boxing fans out there: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_7015757,00.html __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-02-11, 06:59 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Your welcome...it was 'pay per view' here in the UK. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-02-11, 07:11 PM	#4
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	Seriously? Here it was broadcast for free... And there's usually no boxing on tv here EVER. Well accept for K1 of course, but not the regular boxing. Anyway, I'm no boxing expert by any means, but I found this really fun to watch. As a complete newbie and outsider, it was a really exciting match. As I understood it, Hayes normally fights in a different (lighter) weight class? Well I give him credits then for taking on this guy. Must have been at least 20 centimeters taller. Now how in the hell do you get a punch in then? What amazed me btw were Hayes' reflexes; the way he dodged a lot of punches without any cover, just by moving his head. I was impressed. But Klitschko won fair and square imo. __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

07-03-11, 02:58 AM	#6
EzioAuditore Electrician's Mate Join Date: May 2010 Location: Russja Posts: 132 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Im glad that klitscho won becose ,how do they say in america? hayes got alot of talking like Paul Delgado when Zaveck beat a **** out of him Too bad that Hayes wasnt knock outed becose he is realy strong with his tounge __________________ The big E

07-03-11, 04:07 AM	#8
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	When you look at the tale of the tape, Klitschko outscored Hayes in every stat. And in relation to Hayes shooting his mouth off, well, that's called "show". Good, experienced boxers won't be put off by garbage talk, they all do it, some more, some less. It comes with the sport. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS Last edited by Feuer Frei!; 07-03-11 at 04:19 AM.

07-02-11, 06:31 PM	#2
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,070 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Damn I actually wanted to see that fight, but had other responsibilties. Thanks for the link

07-03-11, 02:42 AM	#5
kranz The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 1,430 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	too much dancing in the ring without any significant punches. Too bad, bcoz I really wanted to see Klitschko's face smashed. The way he fights is everything but interesting. On the other hand Haye appeared to be all talk and when I read a minute ago the reasons he gave for losing the fight (toe injury suffered 3 weeks before the fight) I lol'd hard. Unfortunately another boring fight.

07-03-11, 04:16 AM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I saw the fight in full on German (free) TV. It was probably the best heavyweight fight of the last years. Klitschko did not hit with his killer jab although he unpacked his right ram more often and earlier than he usually does, and Haye defended impressively by actinbg very agile and swinging his head and chest left and right and back like a cobra, even in the last round. Both boxers were showing top fitness. But in return Haye was unable to deliver any threats, he tried, but indeed only made hay with his even pre-announced swingers. He was agile and fast, but that was not enough. In the first third, they all in all were even, but in the last third Klitschko more and more often scored clear hits, nevertheless had to be on his guard even in the last round. Just on two or three occasions when he had to move backwards to avoid a sudden assault by Haye one thought that maybe Haye could land a lucky hit. In most of the fight Haye lacked the means to get around Klitschko's defence. However, he was able to almost neutralise Klitschko'S advantage in arm's length. Can't remember a fight when that Klitschko fired short of his opponents face so often. Haye evaded Klitschko pushing him down by letting himself fall to the ground very, very often. That may be clever, but that his corner complained to the referee and the ref in the next round punished Klitschko with one point, was a bias in decision therefore. The ref tried to repair that later, when Haye once again fell to the ground over nothing - and got counted at. Haye clearly eyed assistance from the ref - it caught my attention how very often he looked at the ref. The win for Kitschko is okay, all in all he was better, and showed Haye how incredibly difficult it is to get inside Klitschko's jab (and that jab alone is a threat so menacing that not even a fast boxer like Haye can afford to play around with it). The decision of the three scoring referees underlines that, it was much clearer a decision than I expected. I also like that Haye lost. He behaved like an azz and overstepped that thin red line several times before the fight. Such bigmouths I laugh at when they finally lose. However, I also must say he fought very well. But he needs to work on his behavior. That he let the audience and the TV broadcasters wait for over 20 minutes, once again illustrated his megalomania. The president of the event said it will have financial consequences for him, for he was being told for the better before the fight not to play any games like that. Solid win-by-points for Klitschko - nothing to criticise in his performance. German TV announced 16.3million people having watched the fight live on TV. That is a new record here. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-03-11 at 04:38 AM.

07-03-11, 04:31 AM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Long before the fight Haye announced he would be retiring in October...suprise suprise, after the fight he announced that he is 'reconsidering' his future. Sounds like someone thinking off one more financial payday to me!! __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-03-11, 05:31 AM	#15
EzioAuditore Electrician's Mate Join Date: May 2010 Location: Russja Posts: 132 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	I dont give a fk about US and UK..Slavic countrys leads the way Mate Parlov,Dejan Zaveck,Vladimir Klicko those are boxers you want more "proper" boxers? Btw Feuer Frei why is this off topic? im trying to say that boxers are liers like goverment __________________ The big E