Chinese mystery submarine gets more mysterious.

TLAM Strike · 05-20-11, 03:09 PM

It has a bulge on its keel.

Ideas people?

Mush Martin · 05-20-11, 03:18 PM

Looks like a modified Kilo to my eye. No actual guess from me on the bulge.
However , Experimental {Prototype?} MHD device,
or what Rocket anti torpedo system but if so its
for aft only. Wasnt PRAN looking at the Russian Rocket torps
when Kursk went down ?.
M.

Stealhead · 05-20-11, 03:19 PM

It is a Kilo.Hard to tell from such a grainy pic and the blocks are blocking the full view as well making it hard to tell if its more of a fin like bulge than a bulge and in either case we cant tell if it is like this on the other side.

Looks to me it may be a large bulge that is along the whole keel in that section of the boat and you cant see it all thanks to the blocks.Must be for some sort of SONAR would be my guess and a powerful one.Then again it looks as though might be some sort of thin tarp is laying over the hull see where the color gets more brownish in front of the conning tower looks like plastic maybe?Might be a tarp or some sort of cover and that bugle is the tarp hanging down at the bottom behind the blocks. Too hard to say from just this one photo.Though if it is a bulge it seems rather large and why in such an odd place? Looks like something for downwards scanning from its location.

TLAM Strike · 05-20-11, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

It is a Kilo.

Its a heavily modified Kilo design. it has a larger more streamlined sail and a dorsal rudder.

Some think the bulge is to accommodate a missile silo for a navalized DF-21D ASBM.

FIREWALL · 05-20-11, 03:30 PM

Buldge is for their legs to stickout and kick for silent speed.

Oberon · 05-20-11, 03:45 PM

Tres Interessant, it's a pity we can't get a shot from the other side of the hull. It's possible it's to slot in a DF-21, that'll make it the first SSB that's been afloat in quite a few years. Got to be a testing stage though, SSBs haven't been around for a while for a reason, although in the shallow waters in the strait...dunno...could be a game changer. Personally I'm surprised the Chinese haven't spoken to Tupolev about getting some Tu-22M3s to bolster their ranks, the H-6 certainly can't be relied upon to get close enough to a CVBG to launch one of their ASMs.

Stealhead · 05-20-11, 03:51 PM

What is the boat in front of the dry dock there? A Kilo as well looks to have a narrower conning tower than a Kilo from that shot.Also interesting that you cant see anyone in the picture seems that the workers were not around when it was taken.

Wolfehunter · 05-20-11, 04:14 PM

Maybe it has a mini sub in it.. Its pregnant?

Dunno could be a compartment for releasing some remote drones or something.. or they've added a new swimming pool in it.. No no.. I know.. Its a new Computer room has about 20+ guys who can money farm WOW = Profits.

They have to support there military.. What better way getting behind foreign waters and using there bandwidth...

krashkart · 05-20-11, 04:28 PM

Maybe the sub has developed a goiter?

TarJak · 05-20-11, 04:52 PM

I can't believe none of you have nutted this out. It's the intake for the caterpillar drive!

FIREWALL · 05-20-11, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

I can't believe none of you have nutted this out. It's the intake for the caterpillar drive!

I kinda posted that in a way.

TarJak · 05-20-11, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I kinda posted that in a way.

I'll pay that. You gotta give me a break. I'm posting with a hangover.

Mush Martin · 05-20-11, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

I can't believe none of you have nutted this out. It's the intake for the caterpillar drive!

I did See reference to MHD
My opener.

I cant believe you dont hang off my every post

TarJak · 05-20-11, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

I did See reference to MHD
My opener.

I cant believe you dont hang off my every post

Good to see you posting again. TBH I missed the MHD reference. As I said, I am hungover!

Mush Martin · 05-20-11, 05:43 PM

The King God Bless Him

05-20-11, 03:09 PM	#1
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Chinese mystery submarine gets more mysterious. It has a bulge on its keel. Ideas people? __________________

05-20-11, 03:18 PM	#2
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Looks like a modified Kilo to my eye. No actual guess from me on the bulge. However , Experimental {Prototype?} MHD device, or what Rocket anti torpedo system but if so its for aft only. Wasnt PRAN looking at the Russian Rocket torps when Kursk went down ?. M. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

05-20-11, 03:19 PM	#3
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It is a Kilo.Hard to tell from such a grainy pic and the blocks are blocking the full view as well making it hard to tell if its more of a fin like bulge than a bulge and in either case we cant tell if it is like this on the other side. Looks to me it may be a large bulge that is along the whole keel in that section of the boat and you cant see it all thanks to the blocks.Must be for some sort of SONAR would be my guess and a powerful one.Then again it looks as though might be some sort of thin tarp is laying over the hull see where the color gets more brownish in front of the conning tower looks like plastic maybe?Might be a tarp or some sort of cover and that bugle is the tarp hanging down at the bottom behind the blocks. Too hard to say from just this one photo.Though if it is a bulge it seems rather large and why in such an odd place? Looks like something for downwards scanning from its location. Last edited by Stealhead; 05-20-11 at 03:34 PM.

05-20-11, 03:30 PM	#5
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Buldge is for their legs to stickout and kick for silent speed. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ??? Last edited by FIREWALL; 05-20-11 at 04:57 PM.

05-20-11, 04:14 PM	#8
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	Maybe it has a mini sub in it.. Its pregnant? Dunno could be a compartment for releasing some remote drones or something.. or they've added a new swimming pool in it.. No no.. I know.. Its a new Computer room has about 20+ guys who can money farm WOW = Profits. They have to support there military.. What better way getting behind foreign waters and using there bandwidth... __________________

05-20-11, 03:45 PM	#6
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Tres Interessant, it's a pity we can't get a shot from the other side of the hull. It's possible it's to slot in a DF-21, that'll make it the first SSB that's been afloat in quite a few years. Got to be a testing stage though, SSBs haven't been around for a while for a reason, although in the shallow waters in the strait...dunno...could be a game changer. Personally I'm surprised the Chinese haven't spoken to Tupolev about getting some Tu-22M3s to bolster their ranks, the H-6 certainly can't be relied upon to get close enough to a CVBG to launch one of their ASMs.

05-20-11, 03:51 PM	#7
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	What is the boat in front of the dry dock there? A Kilo as well looks to have a narrower conning tower than a Kilo from that shot.Also interesting that you cant see anyone in the picture seems that the workers were not around when it was taken.

05-20-11, 04:28 PM	#9
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Maybe the sub has developed a goiter? __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

05-20-11, 04:52 PM	#10
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I can't believe none of you have nutted this out. It's the intake for the caterpillar drive!

05-20-11, 05:43 PM	#15
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The King God Bless Him __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial