Operation Unthinkable (Allies attack USSR in 1945).

Feuer Frei! · 05-11-11, 05:57 AM

A bit of modern Propaganda and some 'what if' reading for you:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...rn-Europe.html

http://howitreallywas.typepad.com/ho...thinkable.html

The top 2 links, some trashy synopsies.

http://www.history.neu.edu/PRO2/

The last link, original docs.

Make of it what you will.
Interesting points brought up and some scenario discussions forthcoming i hope.

Raptor1 · 05-11-11, 06:17 AM

This has been known for years. Is it really news now?

I recall there was an extensive debate about this scenario on this very forum a couple of years ago...

Torplexed · 05-11-11, 06:25 AM

Operation Unthinkable. From the man who brought you the Gallipoli Campaign. As difficult and galling as it was to see Stalin's reign extended over half of Europe it probably was the price to be paid for having the Soviets doing the lion's share of the land fighting and the killing of German soldiers in 1941-43. Discussions have been done ad nauseum on this board of the WW2 "extended game version", but nobody really knows how events would have turned out. Giving that the Iron Curtain eventually fell without the impetus of a major conflict I'm not sure one can argue that events didn't turn out reasonably well the way they did.

Feuer Frei! · 05-11-11, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

This has been known for years. Is it really news now?

I recall there was an extensive debate about this scenario on this very forum a couple of years ago...

Probably why i missed it

Raptor1 · 05-11-11, 06:35 AM

Ah, found it. It starts out about a modern war but is quickly and mercilessly derailed in true GT fashion.

TarJak · 05-11-11, 07:44 AM

Ooh can we derail this thread too?

Betonov · 05-11-11, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Ooh can we derail this thread too?

I usualy derail politic threads with food, so history threads should be derailed with... hmmm

.... drinks ???

Raptor1 · 05-11-11, 08:20 AM

Could derail it with discussion about how to derail it.

Oh, wait...

Betonov · 05-11-11, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Could derail it with discussion about how to derail it.

Oh, wait...

Now that sounds like something Douglas Adams might said. Which reminds me, today is the 10th anniversary of his death

Got to start a new post

Sailor Steve · 05-11-11, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Could derail it with discussion about how to derail it.

Oh, wait...

Could derail your discussion on how to derail the thread with a discussion on whether derailing threads is proper. Or would that qualify as part of the same discussion?

MothBalls · 05-11-11, 11:38 AM

STEED · 05-11-11, 11:54 AM

Derailed is so like yesterday.

Raptor1 · 05-11-11, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Could derail your discussion on how to derail the thread with a discussion on whether derailing threads is proper. Or would that qualify as part of the same discussion?

Well, I suppose once a thread has been derailed, it cannot be derailed again unless it rails itself somewhere. Therefore, a discussion on whether derailing threads is proper cannot derail a discussion that has been derailed by a discussion on how to derail threads...err...I think...

MH · 05-11-11, 12:05 PM

You can derail thread but still stay on topic.

Oberon · 05-11-11, 12:23 PM

05-11-11, 05:57 AM	#1
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Operation Unthinkable (Allies attack USSR in 1945). A bit of modern Propaganda and some 'what if' reading for you: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...rn-Europe.html http://howitreallywas.typepad.com/ho...thinkable.html The top 2 links, some trashy synopsies. http://www.history.neu.edu/PRO2/ The last link, original docs. Make of it what you will. Interesting points brought up and some scenario discussions forthcoming i hope. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

05-11-11, 06:17 AM	#2
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	This has been known for years. Is it really news now? I recall there was an extensive debate about this scenario on this very forum a couple of years ago... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

05-11-11, 06:25 AM	#3
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Operation Unthinkable. From the man who brought you the Gallipoli Campaign. As difficult and galling as it was to see Stalin's reign extended over half of Europe it probably was the price to be paid for having the Soviets doing the lion's share of the land fighting and the killing of German soldiers in 1941-43. Discussions have been done ad nauseum on this board of the WW2 "extended game version", but nobody really knows how events would have turned out. Giving that the Iron Curtain eventually fell without the impetus of a major conflict I'm not sure one can argue that events didn't turn out reasonably well the way they did. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

05-11-11, 06:35 AM	#5
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Ah, found it. It starts out about a modern war but is quickly and mercilessly derailed in true GT fashion. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

05-11-11, 08:20 AM	#8
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Could derail it with discussion about how to derail it. Oh, wait... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

05-11-11, 07:44 AM	#6
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Ooh can we derail this thread too?

05-11-11, 11:38 AM	#11
MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0

05-11-11, 11:54 AM	#12
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Derailed is so like yesterday. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	You can derail thread but still stay on topic.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20