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Old 09-07-10, 01:52 PM   #1
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Pastor weighing plans to burn Qurans amid U.S. warnings

(CNN) -- The pastor of a Florida church planning to burn Qurans told CNN Tuesday while the congregation plans to go through with the action to protest the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States by al Qaeda, the church is "weighing" its intentions.

Terry Jones, pastor of Dove World Outreach Church in Gainesville, Florida, who was interviewed on CNN's "American Morning, said the congregation is taking seriously the warning from the U.S. military that the act could cause problems for American troops.

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Old 09-07-10, 01:55 PM   #2
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What they should have done instead of spending money on copies of the Quran and Bic lighters was going out into his community using the money for something more purposeful....like feeding those in need.

Kind of ironic...World Outreach Church....yeah sure...
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Old 09-07-10, 02:16 PM   #3
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I'm not impressed by the World Outreach Church's actions but as an exercise of rights it is no more dispicable than building a mosque close to ground zero.

Also I am of the opinion that this will not place US troops or US citizensin in any more danger than they are already exposed to, exhibited by the multiple deaths by airplanes as bombs, beheadings, and explosive attacks.
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I dont get what they plan to accomplish by doing this other than pepole getting pissed off.

Kind of like the Mosque at ground zero.

Both are stupid ideas.
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I dont get what they plan to accomplish by doing this other than pepole getting pissed off.

Kind of like the Mosque at ground zero.

Both are stupid ideas.
This.

Again, there is ZERO question that they are protected in their right to burn any book they like—by the same Amendment that protects the mosque-builder near the World Trade Center site. The question was never one of legality, but propriety. The difference is funny, actually. The mosque builder claimed it was a positive thing to build the mosque there—and it's not positive. The church nuts could only want to burn the koran to be offensive.

I can see good reason to burn some korans—simply to demonstrate that it is no different than any other book. It may be destroyed, and doing so is a protected right. How about burning it along with some bibles—heck, throw in some Richard Dawkins to make the fundies happy. The purpose would be freedom of expression, not anythign else.
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I don't agree with the premise of the following. but I do like the way he wrote his position.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/9...ont-Burn-Books

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Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 0702 AM PDT

Enough is enough. Enough with the bigotry and the hate. Enough with the race-baiting and the fake debate about the Ground Zero Mosque. Enough of white Americans putting up fences to keep their fellow humans out. Enough of the birthers.




Enough is enough. Enough with the bigotry and the hate. Enough with the race-baiting and the fake debate about the Ground Zero Mosque. Enough of white Americans putting up fences to keep their fellow humans out. Enough of the birthers.


Enough of Christian hypocrites who thump their Bibles while denying men and women the right to marry the one they love. Enough of conservatives holding up the Constitution having never actually read it and preaching about one nation under God and also denying that every American has the right to worship the God of their choosing.


Enough of Progressives and Democrats who engage in these debates rather than attack these bigoted racist hypocrites. Enough of the hate-mongers getting all the attention and press.


You have to draw the line somewhere. Guess what? Now's the time.
You are entitled to your own opinion, after all, this is America and there is Freedom of Speech. But just as important, there is freedom of worship. Because of our freedoms, there, ironically, is the freedom to burn books. However.


Because we are Americans, because we defend and fight and preserve the right of free speech, because we have seen what happens in countries who don't defend these freedoms, we do not burn books. Let me repeat that.

Americans Don't Burn Books.



We print books that maybe you don't people want to read. We print books filled with hate. We print and print and print books of all kinds, but we don't burn books. By defending everyone's right to speak, we defend our right to speak. By defending everyone's right to their own religion, we defend our own right to our own religion.


We have gone to war with people who do burn books; Adolph Hitler comes to mind. Stalin. Pol Pot. There are others. Our military graveyards are full of the men and women who protected us, who gave their lives for us. Not one soldier has ever died, so we could burn books.


Americans Don't Burn Books.


And we especially don't burn the books of another person's religion.
You may or may not believe in the Bible, but if you think the Bible is the worst book in the world, as an American, you don't have to read it, you don't have to believe, no one can force you to or hold it against you if you don't, but you can not burn the Bible.


You may or may not believe in what is in the Torah. You may think the Torah is the worst book in the world, as an American, you don't have to read it, you don't have to believe it, no one can force you to, or hold it against you if you don't but you can not burn the Torah.


Buddhist books, Pagan books, Hindu books. You can't burn them.
And you can't burn the Koran.


You may or may not believe in what is in the Koran. You may think the Koran is the worst book in the world, as an American, you don't have to read it, you don't have to believe it, no one can force you to, or hold it against you if you don't but you can not burn the Koran.


I salute my friends at Human Rights First who are standing up against the bigots who would burn the Koran on 9/11
While I like how he felt, I still believe that people do have the right to burn books they own. Americans have the freedom to do many stupid and irrational things. While I find the idea of burning books stupid and irrational and abhorrent, I will support stupid and irrational people burning books that they own.

In the America I love, even the stupid people have rights.
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What they should have done instead of spending money on copies of the Quran and Bic lighters was going out into his community using the money for something more purposeful....like feeding those in need.

Kind of ironic...World Outreach Church....yeah sure...
Couldnt agree more.

That is just low, very provocative and can achieve no positive outcome, I dont think I've even heard of any radical muslims burning Bibles?
I know, they have burnt U.S British and Swedish flags to name a few, (flag burning is equally retarded tbh)

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Couldnt agree more.

...... I dont think Ive even heard of any radical muslims burning bibles?......)
No they dont....usually they are smarter than that...
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9/11 Koran burning 'disrespectful' and 'disgraceful', Hillary Clinton says

A Florida church's threat to burn copies of the Koran to mark the September 11 attacks has been condemned by Hillary Clinton as "disrespectful" and "disgraceful".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...nton-says.html





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A Florida church's threat to burn copies of the Koran to mark the September 11 attacks has been condemned by Hillary Clinton as "disrespectful" and "disgraceful".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...nton-says.html





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and whats your point?

I rarely agree with Ms. Clinton but this is one of those times.
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I know it wont happen, but if it did, lets say, I will never doubt anything "couldn't" happen after 9-11.
+1.

The day political correctness died.

"Pastor", eh...
Actually, I'd say once you start proclaiming that you're a true believer, the forgiveness course is always the one to follow.

I'd like to know if any family member off the 2752 persons who died in the attacks on the World Trade Center feel anything else than mercy for this so-called "Pastor" who pretends to be righteous burning some book, whereas it's going to be no more than a public show of resentment.

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Couldnt agree more.

That is just low, very provocative and can achieve no positive outcome, I dont think I've even heard of any radical muslims burning Bibles?
I know, they have burnt U.S British and Swedish flags to name a few, (flag burning is equally retarded tbh)
Man, I had never heard of these facts.
Sometimes I'm just happy to say that I almost don't watch TV, ROFL.
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