Dowly, Stug!

Freiwillige · 03-15-11, 10:46 AM

Don't know if you have seen this yet but damn sure is a sexy beast!

Starting at 6:30 she rolls!

Sorry!

Dowly · 03-15-11, 10:49 AM

Uh.. you forgot a link or something?

Freiwillige · 03-15-11, 11:05 AM

Fixed in first post, my bad.

Herr-Berbunch · 03-15-11, 11:08 AM

If you go straight to about seven minutes it looks like it's working fine itself!

Platapus · 03-15-11, 11:30 AM

Serious noob question.

What makes this an Assault Gun as opposed to a Tank or SP arty, or Tank Destroyer?

I never understood the nomenclature.

Raptor1 · 03-15-11, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Serious noob question.

What makes this an Assault Gun as opposed to a Tank or SP arty, or Tank Destroyer?

I never understood the nomenclature.

The StuG III was supposed to provide direct support for infantry attacks, much in the same way tanks in World War I were used. Therefore it was pretty much designed as a mobile armoured (direct fire) field gun, hence Assault Gun. It's not a tank, because it has no turret and serves a specialized purpose. It is, in fact, a form of self-propelled artillery, though not all SP Arty pieces are Assault Guns (Most are designed for indirect fire). It's not technically a tank destroyer because of its designed purpose, but later versions with higher velocity guns proved rather effective as tank destroyers, so it usually counts as one.

Freiwillige · 03-15-11, 11:47 AM

Well the Sturmgeshutz was allocated to the artillery units only. In its original form it had a short barreled 75mm gun designed for direct fire support, bunker busting.

Later when the T-34 came into Combat it was the easiest vehicle to up gun to the long 75mm anti tank gun but it was still only used by the mobile artillery units. They even had different uniforms then the Panzerwaffe.

The later Stug with the long 75 was technically a tank destroyer and the only unit capable of taking on a T-34.

Stug's had the highest tank kill total of any vehicle ever produced even to this day.

To be classified as a tank it has to have a turret, Mobile artillery was indirect fire, Assault gun's are direct fire, And tank destroyers are essentially assault guns equipped for the anti armor role, at least in the German army.

Penguin · 03-15-11, 11:47 AM

Wow, amazing condition! Some years ago tanks were recovered from polish bogs which condition was much worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Serious noob question.

What makes this an Assault Gun as opposed to a Tank or SP arty, or Tank Destroyer?

I never understood the nomenclature.

The difference to a tank would be the lack of a turnable turrent, to a tank destroyer my guess would be the armor and the cannon size/armor penetration power.

Historically the Stugs were under command of the artillery, their purpose was however to give infantry support. So I would say that the difference to SP artillery would be their effective range and the ability to fire directly at a target.

Jimbuna · 03-15-11, 01:36 PM

A lick of paint and an oil change and she'll be as good as new

Platapus · 03-15-11, 01:38 PM

Was it reported about how much damage this guy had from being buried in muck?

And did it sustain battle damage or was it just a stuck in the mud?

Oberon · 03-15-11, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Was it reported about how much damage this guy had from being buried in muck?

And did it sustain battle damage or was it just a stuck in the mud?

I think there's a bullet hole in the video or some kind of hole in the armour. As for damage from the muck, I think once they cleared it all out I doubt there'd be much corrosion, bogs can sometimes preserve stuff really well. There was a German captured T-34 complete with markings pulled out of a lake/bog the other year.

CCIP · 03-15-11, 01:43 PM

Haven't heard what happened to that StuG, although I would assume it's in a museum now.

I hope they found her a good home

Jimbuna · 03-15-11, 02:03 PM

I seen better examples but in Bovington Tank Museum tbh

Feuer Frei! · 03-16-11, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

There was a German captured T-34 complete with markings pulled out of a lake/bog the other year.

You're talking about this:
http://www.mil.hiiumaa.ee/2000_09_14_kurtna_T-34-36/

And here is a link to the restoration of the T-34, video 4 shows them starting up the diesel engine!
http://www.diving.ee/articles/art035.html

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Serious noob question. What makes this an Assault Gun as opposed to a Tank or SP arty, or Tank Destroyer? I never understood the nomenclature. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	A lick of paint and an oil change and she'll be as good as new __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Was it reported about how much damage this guy had from being buried in muck? And did it sustain battle damage or was it just a stuck in the mud? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Uh.. you forgot a link or something?

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Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Fixed in first post, my bad.

03-15-11, 11:47 AM	#7
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Well the Sturmgeshutz was allocated to the artillery units only. In its original form it had a short barreled 75mm gun designed for direct fire support, bunker busting. Later when the T-34 came into Combat it was the easiest vehicle to up gun to the long 75mm anti tank gun but it was still only used by the mobile artillery units. They even had different uniforms then the Panzerwaffe. The later Stug with the long 75 was technically a tank destroyer and the only unit capable of taking on a T-34. Stug's had the highest tank kill total of any vehicle ever produced even to this day. To be classified as a tank it has to have a turret, Mobile artillery was indirect fire, Assault gun's are direct fire, And tank destroyers are essentially assault guns equipped for the anti armor role, at least in the German army.

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Haven't heard what happened to that StuG, although I would assume it's in a museum now. I hope they found her a good home __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I seen better examples but in Bovington Tank Museum tbh __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!