transsexual prisoners can have bras

STEED · 03-06-11, 07:27 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-make-up.html

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A detailed new policy document drawn up by Kenneth Clarke's Ministry of Justice sets out the rights of sex change inmates, saying they must be allowed to purchase "gender appropriate" clothing from a home shopping catalogue.

Ministry of Justice Kenneth Clarke showing how tough he is.

Feuer Frei! · 03-06-11, 07:31 PM

All i can do is

STEED · 03-06-11, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

All i can do is

Don't you just like British prisons.

And the bit a the bottom as well...

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In 2009, 366 inmates declared their religion as paganism and last year it was agreed they should be given four days off prison work a year to celebrate pagan festivals including Samhain, Imbolc and Beltane.

The Jedi's will be next!

Armistead · 03-06-11, 08:09 PM

Do they have implants that need holding up or is this the average titless guy....

Amazing what you can get in prision, good food, free medical, cable...if I wasn'ts so worried about getting buggered I would give it a try...

TLAM Strike · 03-06-11, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

The Jedi's will be next!

I true Jedi would escape from prison.

papa_smurf · 03-07-11, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Do they have implants that need holding up or is this the average titless guy....

Amazing what you can get in prision, good food, free medical, cable...if I wasn'ts so worried about getting buggered I would give it a try...

Most prisons in the UK are heavily overcrowded, but I have a solution; bring back the Napoleonic war era Prison Hulks. That will make convicts less likely to re-offend

HunterICX · 03-07-11, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I true Jedi would escape from prison.

but breaking the law..is the path to the dark side.

HunterICX

Dan D · 03-07-11, 06:07 AM

Interesting find, Steed.
I am scratching my head here. Sometimes I get the idea that the British yellow press is making stories up for political purposes or at least for entertainment for the masses.
Did they read about the story that actually happened in Germany and decided to pick up the story and let it play in England or did they decide to research how things are in English prisons after reading the story from Germany? Or is it just pure coincidence?

Here is from a court decision in Germany that dates from February, 9th 2011:

A prisoner in Germany had applied for permission to buy women's clothing and women's underwear to wear these during times locked up in his cell. He argued that he felt like being a transsexual for some time and that he wanted to try out a so-called „real-life experience“as a woman now.

Head of the prison denied permission and argued that the man's real-life experience as a woman could not be realised in a socially acceptable manner in a men's prison. Even if the prisoner would wear the women's clothes only when locked up in his cell, there still would be the risk that other prisoners find out about it. The protection of prisoners against assaults by other prisoners is more import than the prisoner's lack of sexual orientation.

The Higher Regional court said that the man's real-life experience as a woman already can not be socially unacceptable because of the prisoner's intention to wear the women's clothes in his own private sanctuary, that is his cell only and not when he is together with other male prisoners.

The general right of personality and the ban on sexual discrimination entitle men to wear women's clothes as well as women.
The court pointed out that the possibility of sexual and violent assaults against the prisoner in case that inmates detect the women's clothes and underwear does exist and is for real. A ban to wear women's clothes could be justified in individual cases but only when it turns out that the public safety and order in the prison can not be maintained otherwise.

Sounds familiar?

Anyway, where is my lipstick?

Armistead · 03-07-11, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf

Most prisons in the UK are heavily overcrowded, but I have a solution; bring back the Napoleonic war era Prison Hulks. That will make convicts less likely to re-offend

Just find a large deserted island, give them water, seeds, rice and beans and let them play the game Surivivor for real. Check on them once a year.
In 20 years be interesting to see what culture they formed.

nikimcbee · 03-07-11, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Just find a large deserted island, give them water, seeds, rice and beans and let them play the game Surivivor for real. Check on them once a year.
In 20 years be interesting to see what culture they formed.

They could put them on Wake Is or Midway.

STEED · 03-07-11, 10:14 AM

Last one not rogered to death goes free.

^Crazy mate of mind has weird ideas.^

nikimcbee · 03-07-11, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Last one not rogered to death goes free.

^Crazy mate of mind has weird ideas.^

Define mate for me Steed. When you say "mate", is that a "cell" mate of yours?

Do I need to send you the Victoria's Secert catalog?

STEED · 03-07-11, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Define mate for me Steed. When you say "mate", is that a "cell" mate of yours?

Do I need to send you the Victoria's Secert catalog?

Not in prison.

nikimcbee · 03-07-11, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Not in prison.

Good to hear!

That would make the next subsim meet awfully awkward, when we go to visit Steed.

I thought they sent the "undesirables" to Australia?

STEED · 03-07-11, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Good to hear!

That would make the next subsim meet awfully awkward, when we go to visit Steed.

I thought they sent the "undesirables" to Australia?

We did, maybe the UK should do it again and send them to some unforgiving Island.

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Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Interesting find, Steed. I am scratching my head here. Sometimes I get the idea that the British yellow press is making stories up for political purposes or at least for entertainment for the masses. Did they read about the story that actually happened in Germany and decided to pick up the story and let it play in England or did they decide to research how things are in English prisons after reading the story from Germany? Or is it just pure coincidence? Here is from a court decision in Germany that dates from February, 9th 2011: A prisoner in Germany had applied for permission to buy women's clothing and women's underwear to wear these during times locked up in his cell. He argued that he felt like being a transsexual for some time and that he wanted to try out a so-called „real-life experience“as a woman now. Head of the prison denied permission and argued that the man's real-life experience as a woman could not be realised in a socially acceptable manner in a men's prison. Even if the prisoner would wear the women's clothes only when locked up in his cell, there still would be the risk that other prisoners find out about it. The protection of prisoners against assaults by other prisoners is more import than the prisoner's lack of sexual orientation. The Higher Regional court said that the man's real-life experience as a woman already can not be socially unacceptable because of the prisoner's intention to wear the women's clothes in his own private sanctuary, that is his cell only and not when he is together with other male prisoners. The general right of personality and the ban on sexual discrimination entitle men to wear women's clothes as well as women. The court pointed out that the possibility of sexual and violent assaults against the prisoner in case that inmates detect the women's clothes and underwear does exist and is for real. A ban to wear women's clothes could be justified in individual cases but only when it turns out that the public safety and order in the prison can not be maintained otherwise. Sounds familiar? Anyway, where is my lipstick? __________________

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