Cockfight: bird kills man

[Skybird]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12393125

Love it, more of this, please. I despise everybody taking pleasure from watching animals killing each other or getting killed by man, just for man's entertainment or due to historic tradition, like I also hate people whipping and beating their chaindogs, or horses. Such scumbags are not humane to me. It doesn't matter wether it is bullfighting in spain, yearly dolphin slaughtering on a Japanese beach, dog fights, or cockfights. I always wish the poor creature all the best to accomplish the killing of at least some people attending the bloodbath before it gets killed itself. Let the offender to creation taste his own evil medicine.

It stuns me time and again what needless cruelty man is capable of, cruelty to his own species and cruelty to animals.

In southern France they had a way of doing bullfights were the fighters did not mean to kill the animla, but to prove their courage by trying to rip of coloured ribbons from their horns or something like this: no blood, no killing, no swords. Well, that would be something different then! and as long as the animals are treated well, things like dog and horse races also are not what I would consider problematic.

rooster : man 1:0. Too bad he did not score a second goal.

[Geno_Mariner]

I despise animal cruelty. And good on that rooster for stabbing the man.
Never heard of the non-kill bullfighting, but it sounds much better than stabbing bulls with sticks or swords.

Animals are meant to be loved and looked after or to be left alone in their wild habitats where we and the future generations can see them (that means looking after the environment too!). Not for satisfying sick cruel desires. Nor for the sake of historial traditions.

[Feuer Frei!]

Another reason, and imho the only reason why we are more primitive than animal.
Killing and maiming for sport or pleasure. Sadistic sports or entertainment, to amuse others and ourselves!
I also despise animal cruelty.
I think it shows a very low character in those that harm animals.
Trouble is, you see it all too often

[August]

Poetic justice.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Another reason, and imho the only reason why we are more primitive than animal.
Killing and maiming for sport or pleasure. Sadistic sports or entertainment, to amuse others and ourselves!
I also despise animal cruelty.
I think it shows a very low character in those that harm animals.
Trouble is, you see it all too often

Actually our closest relative in the animal kingdom the chimpanzee also has blood lust and kills for sport. They go on wild pack rampages and slaughter wholesale groups of smaller monkeys.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Actually our closest relative in the animal kingdom the chimpanzee also has blood lust and kills for sport. They go on wild pack rampages and slaughter wholesale groups of smaller monkeys.

As far as I know this is true for only a few groups they observed in wilderness, and still is not a generalised "feature" of the species. Also, they eat the smaller apes they kill.

However, I think there is a correlation between instrumental intelligence and aggression. The term aggression, however, has a meaning that leads beyond the context of violence. By the Latin root of the word, it also means the advancing movement towards something (new), rallying with others, taking a run-up. This reflects a meaning of developement, future-relation, accumulation of potence. Erich Fromm was the first prominent author writing a whole book about the nnecessary distinction between constructive and destructive aggression. I think without aggression there is no developement of instrumental and abstract intelligence, and destructiveness is something like the "dark side" or the "shadow" of the thing. A pervertion maybe, but still unavoidable in its existence. Where there is light, there is shadow.

[bookworm_020]

Am I alone in the fact that I cheer the bull on in bull fighting? Ole!

[joea]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Am I alone in the fact that I cheer the bull on in bull fighting? Ole!

Nope.

Go rooster go! I won't eat chicken this week in honour of this heroic bird.

[August]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Am I alone in the fact that I cheer the bull on in bull fighting? Ole!

I'm with you.

[Factor]

I wonder who is going to take his place working, so they can send all the money he made back to his family in Mexico that he hasn't seen in 15 years.

Also, who is gonna tell his family he was killed by a p!ssed off cock!

Hopefully his friends have learned to leave cocks alone.....

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by August

Poetic justice.

Rgr that.

[Platapus]

How about the running of the bulls.

Who ya betting on?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

How about the running of the bulls.

Who ya betting on?

If you mean the show in Spain where they run and often slide and fall on the cobblestones, it's sheer terror, maximum stress and fear for the animals, so you can imagine where my sympathies are.

Let'S have some caterpillars and construction vehicles racing down the streets instead and macho men trying to run between them. Or have a swimming competition with Mako sharks in the bay.

[Platapus]

I just don't get the "entertainment" factor out of animals suffering.

Not my bag baby.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

If you mean the show in Spain where they run and often slide and fall on the cobblestones, it's sheer terror, maximum stress and fear for the animals, so you can imagine where my sympathies are.

My sympathies as well.

The worst part is those poor animals go on to be slowly tortured and killed in the ring. Bull fighting imo is a barbaric practice that reflects poorly on the cultures that allow it.