U.S. Navy to Probe Lewd Videos Shown to Carrier Crew

[Gerald]

NORFOLK, Virginia – The Navy said Sunday it will investigate "clearly inappropriate" videos broadcast to the crew of a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in which a top officer of the ship used gay slurs, mimicked masturbation and opened the shower curtain on women pretending to bathe together.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/02...est=latestnews


Note: Published January 02, 2011

[Oberon]

I'm no homophobe, but hasn't this sort of thing been done on naval ships of just about all nations before? Navy humour (heck, most military humour full stop, particularly at squaddie level) is traditionally ribald, and if you don't have a thick skin, well, surely you picked the wrong career?

Although, not actually been there myself in terms of military service, so I can't say anything for definite, so I'll leave the real talking to those who have and are.

[Takeda Shingen]

When I saw this story, I asked myself why it is that some people who are very successful would risk everything by not only doing something potentially damaging, but putting it on tape? Even if this was something that others around me were doing, I would never place my career in jeopardy by taking part in it, especially if others were complaining. The Navy may not have done anything about it by itself, but once leaked, you just knew that they would have to act, and having a recording of it is just a timebomb waiting to go off.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Vendor

... a top officer of the ship used gay slurs, mimicked masturbation and opened the shower curtain on women pretending to bathe together.

I'd reckon that this is the part they're going to look at most closely - that a top officer was directly involved.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Growler

I'd reckon that this is the part they're going to look at most closely - that a top officer was directly involved.

If you do these things, and also is an officer who will lead the way for others with respect and mines, where he may stand his caste.

[August]

His career is over.

[Growler]

Oh, hell yes, his Naval career is toast. But he'll make a ton on rights to his side of the story.

[TLAM Strike]

ID posted the video that was leaked to the Virgina Pilot.

http://www.informationdissemination....vie-night.html

Personally I thought it was hilarious. I can't wait for the DVD Box Set!

[ETR3(SS)]

As much as I like an informed and educated American public, this is one of those things that they don't need to know about. If they would like to know then they can inform themselves by visiting their nearest navy recruiter and doing the job that sailors do on a daily basis. Try as the Navy might to rid itself of the stereotypical sailor image, we do swear, drink, smoke, and goof off in ways that the general public wouldn't find acceptable behavior.

Why the public cares about events that happened 3-4 years ago and are trying to do something about it now is beyond me. Personally I hope Capt. Honors career continues uninhibited.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Try as the Navy might to rid itself of the stereotypical sailor image, we do swear, drink, smoke, and goof off in ways that the general public wouldn't find acceptable behavior.

That might well be true, solution? Keep 'it' (swearing, drinking, smoking, and goofing and slurs etc) on the inside, not release it via videos which the public will have, or can have, via leaks, access to.

Why the public cares about events that happened 3-4 years ago and are trying to do something about it now is beyond me. Personally I hope Capt. Honors career continues uninhibited.

i think that the captain is short of a few brain cells to be honest, and surely the few that he has, must have advised him against such 'actions'?
Why should his career go uninhibited? The position he holds alone should be a reason why there should be some sort of 'accountability' for the, and let's be honest here, stupid actions.
Yea sure some people might find it funny or think the guy has a sense of humour, or even agree with his depictions of various acts and portrayals of certain aspects of life. However, that is really not the point here.
And of course a lot of us will use the old "so just because he is in a position of power and trust and responsibility, should he be held accountable for his actions"?
Errm yep, even moreso.
Sorry, but we are all responsible for our actions and if there is no accountability for stupid actions then does that really send out a positive message to others, either in positions of power, right down to us mere mortals who generally look up to these people in some sort of way of respect, trust and belief that these persons were chosen for their positions because they uphold a good sense of morals, respect and decency to our fellow members of society, certainly in public anyway.
Accountability, Accountability, Accountability, can't say it enough.

[MaddogK]

Umm, does anyone care that the video was made 4 years ago ? I thought it was funny as h*ll, and I have no doubt the Capt. is more than professional when appropriate, this is simply a little horseplay when the crewmen needed some morale boost. A NON-issue, and a reprimand at most.

[August]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

Umm, does anyone care that the video was made 4 years ago ?

Nope. If it were made when he was a Lt-Jg it might be excused as a youthful indiscretion but he was a Commander at the time and has to adhere to a higher standard.

[Feuer Frei!]

Ok, so it was 3 to 4 years ago, it finally came to light and...we cba about it now, because no-one cares and let's just sweep it all under the carpet and forget about it and move on and send out the message that 'even though we finally found out what you did and 'had to' investigate because of the leak, we won't hold you accountable for your rather immature and irresponsible actions, because it's been 3 to 4 years' and it sends out a message stating exactly that to the wider public and indeed kids who look up to these sorts of people, is well, a bit wrong imho.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

As much as I like an informed and educated American public, this is one of those things that they don't need to know about. If they would like to know then they can inform themselves by visiting their nearest navy recruiter and doing the job that sailors do on a daily basis. Try as the Navy might to rid itself of the stereotypical sailor image, we do swear, drink, smoke, and goof off in ways that the general public wouldn't find acceptable behavior.

Why the public cares about events that happened 3-4 years ago and are trying to do something about it now is beyond me. Personally I hope Capt. Honors career continues uninhibited.

What else is there to say but, sadly, political correctness trumps "tradition" in today's political and military climate. Look at the hubbub over the alleged USMC puppy video, and other footage out of the wars today. Did the American public think these guys just make this stuff up nowadays? Half these sheeple watching the "news" have never heard of a place called My Lai, I guess - you know, back in the "rough and tumble" 60's, when we weren't as civilized as we are now.

[MaddogK]

Originally Posted by August

Nope. If it were made when he was a Lt-Jg it might be excused as a youthful indiscretion but he was a Commander at the time and has to adhere to a higher standard.

He was a Cdr at the time the vid was made AND it was broadcast over the ships closed circuit TV system.

No problems back then, he was promoted to Capt. of the vessel.

Only NOW do some have issues with it. Sounds like a witchhunt based on the repeal of DADT.