Republicans Take Over House Ready to Spar With Obama

[Gerald]

As Rep. John Boehner is elected as Speaker, the Republicans of the 112th Congress will take over the House and square off with Obama on big government, spending and health care.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...112th-congress


Note: January 05, 2011

[gimpy117]

yay Republicans!


oh wait...this means were really screwed now.

[Ducimus]

s.s.d.d.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

s.s.d.d.

I would hope not. 89 new freshmen with I hope new ideas. They asked to have the line to tow. Let's see how they tow it.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I would hope not. 89 new freshmen with I hope new ideas. They asked to have the line to tow. Let's see how they tow it.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...rom-the-pledge

I agree with Ducimis. SSDD

[Oberon]

This thread goes to hell in five...four...three...

[Takeda Shingen]

Overall, I thought that Boehner made a good speech; calm, subdued, free of grand standing and with the intent of returning power to the people. For him, the challenge comes after the speech. The gauntlet of 'healthcare reform repeal or failure' has been thrown down. Team R does not have the votes to do it, which means that they will likely have to deal with moderate Democtratic Party members if they are going to have any chance at accomplishing this. Dealing means compromise, which is completely at odds with the so-called Tea Party members and the philosophy of their constituents. So, as far as I can see, Boehner's problem, as the de-facto leader of the Republican Party, will be trying to walk the tight rope of political reality while trying to keep his fragile alliance together. This will be a major challenge, as Team R is not the monolithic block it once was. The interests of the neo-conservative leadership are now at odds with the so-called Tea Party; the movement that is largely responsible for the Republican resurgence.

Should make for good theatre, if nothing else.

EDIT: I resent that, Oberon.

[gimpy117]

I personally am concerned with the whole new Tea Party Movement and heres why:

It started out as a legitimate Grass roots movement for sure, Mostly over spending etc. I respected that. Sure there was some underlying racism in the party...but mostly is was over spending. Contrary to popular belif in the GOP us dems are not spend crazy, I would welcome better more effective spending, something the original Tea Party advocated. The problem I see, is that the tea party is not the original tea party. Somewhere along the road the Noecons and GOP decided it was a good way to "re-brand" the republican party; a way of making it seem like its a new movement, rather than just having to state the fact that it's the same old party. Its a brilliant plan that worked, working so well that nobody batted an eye when the new spokesperson of the tea party movement was Palin, somebody who was and probably still is affiliated with the old breed who helped ruin this country. I have a feeling all these new "tea party" senators will act just the same as the old GOP members, people who voted for out of control spending for the war via privatization of the war effort itself, Or let the banks run wild causing the collapse. Although some may say the republican party didn't really cause the collapse, it happened under their watch and I think giving back the house to people that presided over all this mess, or at least people very similar is a dangerous game to play indeed.

What they say is true: american needs new innovative policies to solve our problems, But are these people really new an innovative? or are they just the same wolves dressed in sheep's clothing? Sadly for America and her allies, I think thats just what they are, the same old party.

[Platapus]

All these freshmen/women will soon learn a harsh political lesson.

It is far easier being the minority party where you can just complain. When you are the majority party you have to fix the problem. And that ain't so easy.

I wish them luck. I will unrealistically maintain the fantasy that some of the congress critters will place our nation before their party.

I fully expect to be disappointed..... again.

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Although some may say the republican party didn't really cause the collapse, it happened under their watch...

Whose watch again? The Democratic party has been in total control of the US Congress since 2007 and Bush was a nearly powerless lame duck for the last 2 years of his presidency. Y'know unfairly trying to blame everything on the opposition is part of what got your hated Republicans back into power. Americans aren't as dumb as your side so often says they are.

Besides, your party still controls both the Senate and the White House. You have 2/3rds of the governments power and you still fear for America and her allies? Please. I couldn't think of a more telling admission of incompetance that you fear what a bunch of freshman Congressmen might be able to make you do.

The fact is the Democrats have spent the past few years merrily snubbing their noses at the Republicans and now they're going to have to learn to share the sandbox again. Learn to deal with it.

[gimpy117]

Funny august. Because I remember bush vetoing some of the bills that were aimed at curtailing the war spending.

So no. The congress tried to stop a war that was costing us TRILLIONS and bush just said no

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

The fact is the Democrats have spent the past few years merrily snubbing their noses at the Republicans and now they're going to have to learn to share the sandbox again. Learn to deal with it.

Yes, but that also cuts both ways. For the past few years, the Republicans have been able to sit back and let the Democrats take the heat during this mess. Now they're going to have a hand in it, and won't be able to sit back and say 'not my fault' anymore.

[Castout]

Pls select more ethical people with the right moral compass who don't need to resort to black campaigning to become popular and controversial lest China becomes unstoppable because USA no longer stands for democracy and civil rights and degraded into petty domestic fighting among themselves.

And people in South Asia depend on USA to bring counterbalance to the growing Chinese influence in the region. The Chinese couldn't care less about democracy or human rights so if they have big influence in South Asia you can bet democracy and civil and human rights will go the way of the dodo birds. . . fast.

I'm not saying that USA is the true champion of democracy and civil and human rights but at least it is still the better of the two evil.

Stop the bickering and get your act together! or the world will see a complete Chinese South Asia in 5 years. And to think that I happen to be living in South Asia .

[Ducimus]

For some reason, this comic came to mind earlier:




In the end, nothing will change, SSDD. i'd bet my bottom dollar on that.

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Funny august. Because I remember bush vetoing some of the bills that were aimed at curtailing the war spending.

Don't be blaming the President when your party can't get enough votes to override his veto in spite of controlling the Congress.

AFAIK Bush only veto'd two bills related to defense spending during his term of office, neither of which were aimed at curtailing war spending nor vetoed on those grounds. Both bills were soon modified by Congress and subsequently signed by Bush into law. So yeah it's real funny Gimpy.

So no. The congress tried to stop a war that was costing us TRILLIONS and bush just said no

Oh no, that overly simplistic blame game just won't fly anymore. Although Congress has been controlled by your party for almost 4 straight years, the last two with a liberal Democratic president even, they still haven't stopped anything, so that pretty much blows your statement right out of the water.