Real Navigation .

THE_MASK · 12-21-10, 10:47 PM

This is how i use real navigation

Install The latest New UI mod and Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
The navigator will give you a mark on the navigation map every 2 hours .
Make sure that your real navigation script time corresponds with the game time .

Use your compass to head in the direction you need to go . I want to head 120 degrees . To bring up the compass click on the red square in the heading bar .
In another 2 hours the navigator will give you another plot on your navigation map .

Click on your compass to change direction . I use Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 so the compass expands in size when i mouse over it .

Krauter · 12-21-10, 11:48 PM

Hah good story

This in fact is the only reason I don't want to try RealNav. I don't think between getting Manual Targetting skills back and figuring out the sextant I'll enjoy playing

hotlead · 12-22-10, 12:56 AM

What type of u-boat

Krauter · 12-22-10, 01:39 AM

Really?

Sh5 = One U-boat class, Type 7. (VII) A through C41.

Looking at the pic I'd say its a Type VII C

hotlead · 12-22-10, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

Really?

Sh5 = One U-boat class, Type 7. (VII) A through C41.

Looking at the pic I'd say its a Type VII C

Well Duh I knew it was type 7, I was curious which type A B or C, im not that far into the game yet, I finally gotta B

THE_MASK · 12-22-10, 02:40 AM

U-69 VIIC class 2 .

voss · 12-22-10, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

Real Navigation .
I am using real navigation and its very foggy . Heading home and we nearly hit a high sand bank at low tide . That was close .

Getting a bit lost now , but fortunately the watch crew spots a german destroyer and now we have our bearings .

Finally made it back to port . That was fun , not .

Cool!

You wanted realism and you got it! I'm impressed but too much of a whimp to try it myself.

Happy hunting!

ETsd4 · 12-23-10, 06:50 AM

Which mods do i have to install for the real navigation? Especially what do i have to do to get rid of my u-Boot position on the map?

Obelix · 12-24-10, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ETsd4

Which mods do i have to install for the real navigation? Especially what do i have to do to get rid of my u-Boot position on the map?

As minimum:
NewUIs_TDC_5_8_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_5_8_0_Real_Navigation

Obelix · 12-24-10, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sober

Real Navigation .
I am using real navigation and its very foggy . Heading home and we nearly hit a high sand bank at low tide . That was close .

Getting a bit lost now , but fortunately the watch crew spots a german destroyer and now we have our bearings .

Finally made it back to port . That was fun , not .

Cool!

I was the second trip away from this mod. I felt like a captain. I plotted relying on speed and course of the boat. All other calculations makes the navigator. I like things this way.

Of course, provided that with the navigator did not happen.

ETsd4 · 12-24-10, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Obelix

As minimum:
NewUIs_TDC_5_8_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_5_8_0_Real_Navigation

Thanks. Have installed the NewUIs_TDC_5_8_0_Real_Navigation and it works.

Another question concerning position-verification during real navigation:
the SH5-map dont show any lighthouse-symbols.
Is there a list of implemented lighthouses in the game maybe with position-data?

skookum · 12-25-10, 02:58 AM

I think, more than any other potential feature, charted navigation aids such as lighthouses would boost the realism of maritime navigation beyond anything else available in a publicly available sim / game today. Not even Ship Simulator gives the user the tools needed to adequately simulate marine navigation. Not that this takes away anything from Ship Simulator. But that game's focus is on ship handling in harbor, not trans-oceanic navigation.

In the mean time, in many cases you can still navigate using edges of land. Just pick three visible points of land more than 10-15 degrees apart each other and take some true bearings. The point where the three lines cross is where your fix is. If you get a "cocked hat" (small triangle instead of a perfect point) then plot your position inside.

I'd like to see if there is a way for SH to plot the ship's position within a circle of uncertainty of say 3-5 nm at an interval of something like every 24 hours at noon, or near sunrise and sunset, simulating the results of an astro fix taken by the ship's navigator. Obviously cloudy weather would make this feature seem a little unrealistic. Regardless this would force the skipper to DR his way around the ocean without having to do all the "extra stuff" required to get an astro fix.

I'm the Captain. I don't need to use a sextant. But I do make decisions based on the best position information available.

And don't forget, depth contours can also be useful wayfinding tools. Take a line of bearing and ping your depth. Then look at your chart to determine the most logical place where both coincide. Doesn't work everywhere. But some places have steeper contours than others.

TheDarkWraith · 12-25-10, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skookum

I'd like to see if there is a way for SH to plot the ship's position within a circle of uncertainty of say 3-5 nm at an interval of something like every 24 hours at noon, or near sunrise and sunset, simulating the results of an astro fix taken by the ship's navigator. Obviously cloudy weather would make this feature seem a little unrealistic. Regardless this would force the skipper to DR his way around the ocean without having to do all the "extra stuff" required to get an astro fix.

I'm the Captain. I don't need to use a sextant. But I do make decisions based on the best position information available.

I included a new command in Automation that has the navigator plot your current position using celestial navigation. If he's unable to do it celestially (sextant) he'll do it via dead-reckoning. If you make an Automation script for this you can do what you're wanting

raymond6751 · 12-25-10, 08:37 AM

This is great stuff. I was reading a forum discussion about the map scale and ruler inaccuracy.

Does this have any bearing with the Nav mod? I'm going to try it anyway, because you don't want to miss an opportunity for realism!

Thank you Darkwraith.

Trevally. · 12-25-10, 09:03 AM

The maps scale is ok. Its the scale marker at bottom left that is out.
The tools only read to the nearest 50m.

12-21-10, 10:47 PM	#1
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Real Navigation . This is how i use real navigation Install The latest New UI mod and Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6 The navigator will give you a mark on the navigation map every 2 hours . Make sure that your real navigation script time corresponds with the game time . Use your compass to head in the direction you need to go . I want to head 120 degrees . To bring up the compass click on the red square in the heading bar . In another 2 hours the navigator will give you another plot on your navigation map . Click on your compass to change direction . I use Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 so the compass expands in size when i mouse over it . Last edited by THE_MASK; 09-08-12 at 10:25 PM.

12-25-10, 02:58 AM	#12
skookum Weps Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 351 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I think, more than any other potential feature, charted navigation aids such as lighthouses would boost the realism of maritime navigation beyond anything else available in a publicly available sim / game today. Not even Ship Simulator gives the user the tools needed to adequately simulate marine navigation. Not that this takes away anything from Ship Simulator. But that game's focus is on ship handling in harbor, not trans-oceanic navigation. In the mean time, in many cases you can still navigate using edges of land. Just pick three visible points of land more than 10-15 degrees apart each other and take some true bearings. The point where the three lines cross is where your fix is. If you get a "cocked hat" (small triangle instead of a perfect point) then plot your position inside. I'd like to see if there is a way for SH to plot the ship's position within a circle of uncertainty of say 3-5 nm at an interval of something like every 24 hours at noon, or near sunrise and sunset, simulating the results of an astro fix taken by the ship's navigator. Obviously cloudy weather would make this feature seem a little unrealistic. Regardless this would force the skipper to DR his way around the ocean without having to do all the "extra stuff" required to get an astro fix. I'm the Captain. I don't need to use a sextant. But I do make decisions based on the best position information available. And don't forget, depth contours can also be useful wayfinding tools. Take a line of bearing and ping your depth. Then look at your chart to determine the most logical place where both coincide. Doesn't work everywhere. But some places have steeper contours than others. __________________

12-25-10, 08:37 AM	#14
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Amazing This is great stuff. I was reading a forum discussion about the map scale and ruler inaccuracy. Does this have any bearing with the Nav mod? I'm going to try it anyway, because you don't want to miss an opportunity for realism! Thank you Darkwraith. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

12-25-10, 09:03 AM	#15
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	The maps scale is ok. Its the scale marker at bottom left that is out. The tools only read to the nearest 50m. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

12-22-10, 12:56 AM	#3
hotlead Watch Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 20 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	What type of u-boat

12-22-10, 02:40 AM	#6
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	U-69 VIIC class 2 .

12-23-10, 06:50 AM	#8
ETsd4 中国水兵 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 278 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	Which mods do i have to install for the real navigation? Especially what do i have to do to get rid of my u-Boot position on the map?