ARMA:OP or S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Spike88 · 12-01-10, 11:36 PM

Well, the misses is allowing me to buy a game under 60 for mah birthday. I've narrowed my choices between:
ARMA II:Operation Arrowhead+BAF DLC
or
STALKER SoC, Clear Sky, and CoP+ plus the complete mods.

Not really sure what I want.

Ducimus · 12-01-10, 11:59 PM

Well, i can say this much for the stalker series:
- open world exploration
- RPG elements
- horror elements
- decent FPS mechanics, but not a run and gun circle straffing sort of game. Use cover or get pummeled.
- Price ranges from 10 to 20 bucks.
- damn good mods.

I have no idea about ARMA. Never looked into it.

mookiemookie · 12-02-10, 12:00 AM

Never played ARMA, but damn I love me some S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

I own them all and think they're awesome.

Ducimus · 12-02-10, 12:04 AM

I'm currently playing Clear sky with the "Clear sky complete" mod. Took me a few minutes to "get into" the game, (having just played COD:MW1) but once i did i didn't want to put it down.

Spike88 · 12-02-10, 12:16 AM

On one hand I get 3 games for 39.99(Call of Pripyat is 9.99 if you own the other two). On the other hand I'm a scaredy cat.

Also I wont play Call of Pripyat until the Complete mod is down/out.

And then ARMA is just ARMA.

Also, I should have made a Poll.

Ducimus · 12-02-10, 12:18 AM

Why don't you just go on youtube and look for gameplay clips of both games?

Whenever i can't make up my mind, that's what i usually do.

edit:
Call of prypiat is the 3rd and last game of the series. You'll easily kill 40 to 80 hours in SOC alone.

Spike88 · 12-02-10, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Why don't you just go on youtube and look for gameplay clips of both games?

Whenever i can't make up my mind, that's what i usually do.

edit:
Call of prypiat is the 3rd and last game of the series. You'll easily kill 40 to 80 hours in SOC alone.

I've seen footage of both.

Didn't really help.

I own ARMA II regular, and I played an early leaked level of Shadow of Chernobyl back before it was released. Which pretty much equated to one map with a rat in it. No Health/weapons.

Fincuan · 12-02-10, 12:32 AM

Quite a different types of games really. Stalker is... well Stalker, and Arma2 an open-world infantry combat simulator with supporting elements like armor, air and artillery modeled to some degree. It's a pretty direct sequel to Operation Flashpoint(no, not the Dragon one) and Arma1, if you've ever played those. Dozens of countries use VBS, its military brother, for training, and this also shows in the "civvy version": It's pretty realistic in many ways, but also takes shortcuts in areas which you'd expect to be handled properly after playing normal tubeshooters like COD and MOH. Arrowhead improved this situation a lot, but it is still there. Normally single player campaigns are the weak point of BIS games, and multiplayer is a big strong one. I think the amount of players there is theoretically unlimited, but practically the max is around 120. There are no set gamemodes, everything is up to the missiondesigners. A mission editor is included with the game. I did find the original Arma2 campaign decent enough, if somewhat slow-paced at points. Haven't touched Arrowhead's campaign so I can't say for that. I went straight to multiplayer with that one.

The default world of Arma2 is quite a lot bigger than anything you see in Stalker, around 220 km2. Arrowhead's Takistan is slightly smaller I think. Modding has always been a strong point of the series, and Arma2 is no exception. Dev tools were released shortly after the game itself, and the game itself is built on top of modding. Even all the original content is actually mods. There's a ton of mods out there varying from increasing realism to WW2 to Star Wars. There also used to be a Stalkerish MP mission around.

The OFP-series has taken most of my gaming time ever since the original OFP demo was released in 1999, so it can't be that bad

edit: And now I see it's Spike who's asking. Nvm, you are familiar with Arma already

Spike88 · 12-02-10, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fincuan

edit: And now I see it's Spike who's asking. Nvm, you are familiar with Arma already

I was watching videos of OA and somehow ended up watching war footage. Which fueled my desire for OA more.

I guess in truth I'll end up getting both as there is Christmas around the corner(best thing about being born in December

)

The question is just which do I get first.

Edit: Holy crap, I ended up using one smiley per sentence.

Spike88 · 12-02-10, 03:21 AM

I believe the Operation Arrowhead demo just answered me question.

Wolfehunter · 12-02-10, 07:25 AM

STALKER, STALKER AND STALKER...

For the the 3 Stalker games versions,

Shadows of Chernobyl, Original classic!

Clearsky, I didn't like this one...

Call Of Pripyat, Very cool and fun... GSC's comeback from CS flop.

All three a damn great bargain for there price and Mods to last you for years... Including mine.. hehehe

Oberon · 12-02-10, 08:59 AM

Get out of here Stalker!

I really must reinstall SOC again sometime. Damn it was brutal in some places. If the rads didn't get you the raiders would, if they didn't get you the leapfrogging mutants would, and if they didn't get you, the dog packs would and if they didn't get you, you'd probably find yourself in the middle of nowhere with no shelter and a blowout beginning.

ajrimmer42 · 12-02-10, 01:15 PM

they are both great, but I'd defo go for STALKER. SOC and COP were both fantastic, Clear Sky was a bit **** though

Ducimus · 12-02-10, 02:28 PM

Clear sky is pretty decent if you get clear sky complete. Actualy, its not decent, its FUN.

mod site here.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/clear-sky-complete

overview of changes here.
http://artistpavel.blogspot.com/2010...-complete.html

Jankowski · 12-20-10, 09:14 PM

thats one awsome picture Wolfehunter!

I would have to say at a point in everyones gaming life they would have to try stalker.
sure the game starts really slowly and awkwardly, but then later on you cant play anything else. the storyline in Shadow of Chernobyl is really good, but unfortunately somewhat badly translated, and less hardcore players would just skip over the important parts.

12-01-10, 11:36 PM	#1
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	ARMA:OA or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Well, the misses is allowing me to buy a game under 60 for mah birthday. I've narrowed my choices between: ARMA II:Operation Arrowhead+BAF DLC or STALKER SoC, Clear Sky, and CoP+ plus the complete mods. Not really sure what I want. __________________ Last edited by Spike88; 12-02-10 at 12:58 AM.

12-02-10, 12:00 AM	#3
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Never played ARMA, but damn I love me some S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I own them all and think they're awesome. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

12-02-10, 12:16 AM	#5
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	On one hand I get 3 games for 39.99(Call of Pripyat is 9.99 if you own the other two). On the other hand I'm a scaredy cat. Also I wont play Call of Pripyat until the Complete mod is down/out. And then ARMA is just ARMA. Also, I should have made a Poll. __________________

12-02-10, 03:21 AM	#10
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I believe the Operation Arrowhead demo just answered me question. __________________

12-02-10, 07:25 AM	#11
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	STALKER, STALKER AND STALKER... For the the 3 Stalker games versions, Shadows of Chernobyl, Original classic! Clearsky, I didn't like this one... Call Of Pripyat, Very cool and fun... GSC's comeback from CS flop. All three a damn great bargain for there price and Mods to last you for years... Including mine.. hehehe __________________

12-01-10, 11:59 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Well, i can say this much for the stalker series: - open world exploration - RPG elements - horror elements - decent FPS mechanics, but not a run and gun circle straffing sort of game. Use cover or get pummeled. - Price ranges from 10 to 20 bucks. - damn good mods. I have no idea about ARMA. Never looked into it.

12-02-10, 12:04 AM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I'm currently playing Clear sky with the "Clear sky complete" mod. Took me a few minutes to "get into" the game, (having just played COD:MW1) but once i did i didn't want to put it down.

12-02-10, 12:18 AM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Why don't you just go on youtube and look for gameplay clips of both games? Whenever i can't make up my mind, that's what i usually do. edit: Call of prypiat is the 3rd and last game of the series. You'll easily kill 40 to 80 hours in SOC alone.

12-02-10, 12:32 AM	#8
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Quite a different types of games really. Stalker is... well Stalker, and Arma2 an open-world infantry combat simulator with supporting elements like armor, air and artillery modeled to some degree. It's a pretty direct sequel to Operation Flashpoint(no, not the Dragon one) and Arma1, if you've ever played those. Dozens of countries use VBS, its military brother, for training, and this also shows in the "civvy version": It's pretty realistic in many ways, but also takes shortcuts in areas which you'd expect to be handled properly after playing normal tubeshooters like COD and MOH. Arrowhead improved this situation a lot, but it is still there. Normally single player campaigns are the weak point of BIS games, and multiplayer is a big strong one. I think the amount of players there is theoretically unlimited, but practically the max is around 120. There are no set gamemodes, everything is up to the missiondesigners. A mission editor is included with the game. I did find the original Arma2 campaign decent enough, if somewhat slow-paced at points. Haven't touched Arrowhead's campaign so I can't say for that. I went straight to multiplayer with that one. The default world of Arma2 is quite a lot bigger than anything you see in Stalker, around 220 km2. Arrowhead's Takistan is slightly smaller I think. Modding has always been a strong point of the series, and Arma2 is no exception. Dev tools were released shortly after the game itself, and the game itself is built on top of modding. Even all the original content is actually mods. There's a ton of mods out there varying from increasing realism to WW2 to Star Wars. There also used to be a Stalkerish MP mission around. The OFP-series has taken most of my gaming time ever since the original OFP demo was released in 1999, so it can't be that bad edit: And now I see it's Spike who's asking. Nvm, you are familiar with Arma already

12-02-10, 08:59 AM	#12
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Get out of here Stalker! I really must reinstall SOC again sometime. Damn it was brutal in some places. If the rads didn't get you the raiders would, if they didn't get you the leapfrogging mutants would, and if they didn't get you, the dog packs would and if they didn't get you, you'd probably find yourself in the middle of nowhere with no shelter and a blowout beginning.

12-02-10, 01:15 PM	#13
ajrimmer42 Royal Kinotropist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 987 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	they are both great, but I'd defo go for STALKER. SOC and COP were both fantastic, Clear Sky was a bit **** though __________________ Alex Don't judge a ship by the number of it's guns, but by the skill of it's crew.

12-02-10, 02:28 PM	#14
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Clear sky is pretty decent if you get clear sky complete. Actualy, its not decent, its FUN. mod site here. http://www.moddb.com/mods/clear-sky-complete overview of changes here. http://artistpavel.blogspot.com/2010...-complete.html

12-20-10, 09:14 PM	#15
Jankowski Frogman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 306 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	thats one awsome picture Wolfehunter! I would have to say at a point in everyones gaming life they would have to try stalker. sure the game starts really slowly and awkwardly, but then later on you cant play anything else. the storyline in Shadow of Chernobyl is really good, but unfortunately somewhat badly translated, and less hardcore players would just skip over the important parts.