US Republicans seize lower house

Gerald · 11-03-10, 07:15 AM

US Republicans win control of the lower house of Congress in key elections, setting up a new challenge to President Barack Obama's agenda.

* Mark Mardell: Voters punish Obama
* The new rulers of the House
* Boehner emotional at victory Watch
* In pictures: US Election results
* Republican joy in Chicago
* As it happened: US mid-terms
* Pundits' views on what next
* Gratitude from victorious Reid Watch

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11684522

Note:3 November 2010 Last updated at 11:42 GMT

papa_smurf · 11-03-10, 07:35 AM

This has been interesting to watch from a non-US perspective. Does this mean President Obama will find it difficult getting laws passed? Will the Republicans try to block new legislation or not risk it, as that might dent their chances of getting into power in 2 years time

Still, much more interesting than the bunch we got

Gerald · 11-03-10, 07:44 AM

Mr. Obama, has a veto, which I suppose it could be beneficial

papa_smurf · 11-03-10, 07:46 AM

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Mr. Obama, has a veto, which I suppose it could be beneficial

Like when the UK had one in the early days of the EU, where we would veto everything no matter what time of day is was

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Oberon · 11-03-10, 07:51 AM

Gloating from obvious sources begins in five...four...three...

NeonSamurai · 11-03-10, 08:04 AM

Ya lets widen the gulf between parties even more and make each side even more rabid and extreme

Honestly I think American politics have gotten way more polarized in the last 20 years. With less critical thinking going on, and more blind backing your chosen religion.. I mean party.

Here in Canada it's the exact opposite, where voter apathy rules and we don't trust or like any of the candidates very much. Sure there are some dyed in the wool liberals and conservatives, but not that many.

SteamWake · 11-03-10, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Gloating from obvious sources begins in five...four...three...

No time for gloating the work is just getting started.

It is time to hold these jokers feet to the fire and make sure they act in the manner they promised us.

I am really dissapointed about Reid's race thouth. I guess they managed to demonize Angle and surround themselves with last minute union orginzation. How that guy is still in office is beyond me.

tater · 11-03-10, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf

This has been interesting to watch from a non-US perspective. Does this mean President Obama will find it difficult getting laws passed? Will the Republicans try to block new legislation or not risk it, as that might dent their chances of getting into power in 2 years time

Still, much more interesting than the bunch we got

The Senate is still dem, but much important stuff will need both houses in agreement.

The net result is nothing sweeping can possibly come from Obama except if it is liked by the Republicans. Sadly, in the first 2 years he set up stuff where unelected regulators will set policies that can still fubar the country (much of the real problem with the healthcare bill is that the specifics were not passed, but they set up things so huge changes could come later with no votes at all by people appointed).

The country would have been better off with this kind of gridlock for the whole Obama admin (not to mention Obama would be better off, because he would have had to been centrist to pass anything.)

AVGWarhawk · 11-03-10, 09:02 AM

The people(country) have spoken. Obama needs to govern from the center. Just as he stumped in 2008.

Bubblehead1980 · 11-03-10, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The people(country) have spoken. Obama needs to govern from the center. Just as he stumped in 2008.

Obama is too much of an ideologue to do that.Bill Clinton enjoyed the office and the power more than he cared about his principles so he listened to Dick Morris and gave the appearance of moving to the center, cake for the people so to speak.Obama may try this but doubt it, he is too committed to his lefty ways.

August · 11-03-10, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf

Does this mean President Obama will find it difficult getting laws passed? Will the Republicans try to block new legislation or not risk it, as that might dent their chances of getting into power in 2 years time

If the Republicans are smart they will do more than be obstructionist. In two years they will need to be able to show that they came up with some ideas themselves, even if the Senate Dems and White House block them.

nikimcbee · 11-03-10, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by August

If the Republicans are smart they will do more than be obstructionist. In two years they will need to be able to show that they came up with some ideas themselves, even if the Senate Dems and White House block them.

Dude, you guys re-elected Barney Frank, waz up with that?

tater · 11-03-10, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Dude, you guys re-elected Barney Frank, waz up with that?

Who knows. Anyone actually watch his appalling victory speech? What a disgusting boor. His whole speech rang of entitlement. Seems peeved he even had to run. Useless POS.

gimpy117 · 11-03-10, 10:28 AM

to be honest, nothing will get done. Democratic executive branch, democratic senate; and republican house

that spells out deadlock to me

Skybird · 11-03-10, 11:03 AM

The atmosphere has been poisened like I cannot remember it ever has been the case during my adult lifetime since I started to observe politics. Plenty of hate, sheer hate, from the tea party - no way to call some of the campaign stunts any different than that.

That is no good mixture to expect compromise. I think both parties will try to be very and the tea party will try to be extremely destructive, for the sake of destruction done to the political oppon... - no, the political enemy.

I wonder if even Bush was so polariisng to the US society. I think not.

However, the Dems were sort of lucky. I expected them to lose the senate, too. Senate is no more filibusterproof, too (60 of 100 are needed to prevent it, or am I mistaken?)

O'Donell failed to win. Good for the Reps in two years. They really need to start sorting her likes out. But I think, more relaistic is to expect that the Reps will start to rip themselves apart between tea-party and non-tea party. The first will try to take over control in the Rep party.

What it all means? A further degeneration of political culture, where the cause to claim power will justify EVERY means. Would one have thought that that could even be imagined: a further degeneration? It seems the hole is bottomless, so is the fall into it endless.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The atmosphere has been poisened like I cannot remember it ever has been the case during my adult lifetime since I started to observe politics. Plenty of hate, sheer hate, from the tea party - no way to call some of the campaign stunts any different than that. That is no good mixture to expect compromise. I think both parties will try to be very and the tea party will try to be extremely destructive, for the sake of destruction done to the political oppon... - no, the political enemy. I wonder if even Bush was so polariisng to the US society. I think not. However, the Dems were sort of lucky. I expected them to lose the senate, too. Senate is no more filibusterproof, too (60 of 100 are needed to prevent it, or am I mistaken?) O'Donell failed to win. Good for the Reps in two years. They really need to start sorting her likes out. But I think, more relaistic is to expect that the Reps will start to rip themselves apart between tea-party and non-tea party. The first will try to take over control in the Rep party. What it all means? A further degeneration of political culture, where the cause to claim power will justify EVERY means. Would one have thought that that could even be imagined: a further degeneration? It seems the hole is bottomless, so is the fall into it endless. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.