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Old 10-31-10, 10:20 PM   #1
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McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

WASHINGTON — When workers in a McDonald’s restaurant in Canton, Ohio, opened their paychecks this month, they found a pamphlet urging them to vote for the Republican candidates for governor, Senate and Congress, or possibly face financial repercussions. The pamphlet appeared calculated to intimidate workers into voting for Republican candidates by making a direct reference to their wages and benefits, said Allen Schulman, a Democrat who is president of the Canton City Council and said he obtained a copy of the pamphlet on Wednesday.

The pamphlet said: “If the right people are elected, we will be able to continue with raises and benefits at or above the current levels. If others are elected, we will not.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/30/us...30ohio.html?bl


Note:Published: October 29, 2010
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They're not being told who to vote for. Ballots are secret, they can vote for or against their own interests.

Their employer telling them that they will suffer under one party seems respectful to me. They can make an educated decision whether being shoved onto Medicaid, for example, beats whatever they have now, etc.

It's not like unions don't "tell their membership who to vote for." They do exactly the same.
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The pamphlet said: “If the right people are elected, we will be able to continue with raises and benefits at or above the current levels. If others are elected, we will not.”
not necessarily untrue.
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You know slipping political pamphlet into paycheck envelope is at the very least UNETHICAL.

And to add negative implying that could be interpreted as soft threat in it is DISGUSTING.

The methods of THIRD WORLD flop democracies.
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You know slipping political pamphlet into paycheck envelope is at the very least UNETHICAL.

And to add negative implying that could be interpreted as soft threat in it is DISGUSTING.

The methods of THIRD WORLD flop democracies.
True... every word.
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You know slipping political pamphlet into paycheck envelope is at the very least UNETHICAL.

And to add negative implying that could be interpreted as soft threat in it is DISGUSTING.

The methods of THIRD WORLD flop democracies.
I agree with this sentiment. Who their employee's vote for is none of their business, so they are way out of line here. It makes me wonder what else they've been doing to try and pull political strings.. on that note, i'll add, SHADY, to the above list. Very shady.
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I agree with this sentiment. Who their employee's vote for is none of their business, so they are way out of line here. It makes me wonder what else they've been doing to try and pull political strings.. on that note, i'll add, SHADY, to the above list. Very shady.
You guys are just trying to make political hay out of a few lawn clippings because your party is going to get a bloody nose* tomorrow night. Well learn to deal with it.





* Lest you start accusing me of making threats I meant politically.
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You guys are just trying to make political hay out of a few lawn clippings because your party is going to get a bloody nose* tomorrow night.
I already said, I'm not voting for either party, and i dislike both equally. Screw em both, because their both the same BS, under a different wrapper. One blue, one red, but the end result is the same BS. So your "your party" line, isnt applicable in my case. On that note, i find this, "us verses them" attitude, is a crock of excrement that needs to go. Your making yourselves into hyphenated Americans, only instead of using ethic backgrounds, your using political ones.

All i was saying, is that McD's is out of line. They're sticking their noses in places it doesn't belong. No employer has any business in their employee's dealings with politics and religion. None what so ever, in any shape or form. Not through direct means, nor implied ones. Doing so, is HIGHLY unethical.

Furthermore, if McD's were telling people to vote for democrates, you (and a few others here) would be having a cow. So i find any defense of McD's, hypocritical at the very least.
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You know slipping political pamphlet into paycheck envelope is at the very least UNETHICAL.

And to add negative implying that could be interpreted as soft threat in it is DISGUSTING.

The methods of THIRD WORLD flop democracies.
Public employee unions do this all the time. So, who cares.
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Money speaks its own language, and a conscious employee will not be affected by this
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