Typhoon-Class sub pics

[Legionary74]

Im watching Hunt for Red October, and seeing the Typhoon class, I nearly fell off my chair. After a little research, I dug these up

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...est-submarine/


Is it just me or is EVERYTHING that involves nuclear technology from the USSR looks like its hundreds of years old, with things broken and shattered?

[Castout]

They are cold war products and they may not have been receiving proper maintenance due to lack of funds.


They have a swimming pool there well it's more like a small pool but impressive nonetheless for a submarine.

[Legionary74]

Its a shame these were put to waste.

Russia should build more of these with up to date technology. Imagine them now? Still the worlds largest subs and probably the most powerful

[ETR3(SS)]

It was building these goliaths that helped to bankrupt the USSR. There is an old Russian saying/proverb that goes "Better is the enemy of good enough." The Soviet Union built things to do the intended job and that was it, no more. The Typhhon was designed to sit under the polar ice and launch a retaliatory strike up to a year after the initial exchange. Lurking under the ice for that long it didn't need to be sophisticated. As for being the most powerful, that depends upon your definition of powerful. If you looking only at nuclear armament then I think the Ohio class would have it beat there with its 24 missiles.

[Méo]

I've already seen some of those photos but it always amaze me to see how fat were those russian subs.

[Admiral8Q]

Originally Posted by Legionary74

Its a shame these were put to waste.

Russia should build more of these with up to date technology. Imagine them now? Still the worlds largest subs and probably the most powerful

There really is no more purpose for those goliaths. Like ETR3 said they only had one role... revenge. Nice pics though. It shows what the human mind can create when we get down to it. It's too bad that killing seems to be our strongest motivation as a species.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Admiral8Q

It's too bad that killing seems to be our strongest motivation as a species.

No that's only the result.

To dominate is our strongest motivation as a species. All man endeavors in general in politics, education, economy, sports, science, military and diplomacy all those are intended for getting domination on more and more people.

Mankind are pretty much a primitive species still . . . . . .quite similar to baboons only with more sophisticated toys and rules. Many people are even convinced that they are nothing more than animal . . . .I'd suggest the zoo to have a particular homo sapiens exhibit and call it narcissist homo sapiens. Would make an interesting scene...but wait the whole world is one big zoo mostly. Forgive my negativity but I've years of experience to back what I just wrote and hold. Mankind are not sophisticated they are downright easy to guess since they're still primarily primal and primitive in nature. Forget moral forget ethics, forget rule of law which in some region only acts primarily as deterrence ONLY to the helpless. . . . . . .what they want is following their selfish desires.

Whoever decreed or created DEATH must be a blooooody genius. If a person who only lives a lifetime could become so much corrupted I can't imagine if they were able to live forever. Death you're beautiful and a necessity!

[krashkart]

I never get tired of those pics. In a way it's sad to see those hulks rusting away, yet comforting that that chapter in human history has come to pass.

[Admiral8Q]

Originally Posted by krashkart

I never get tired of those pics. In a way it's sad to see those hulks rusting away, yet comforting that that chapter in human history has come to pass.

I agree, but we're in a new chapter. It never seems to end does it?

@Castout, we have a long way to go understanding ourselves before we explore space. My cousin sent me this:

Watch the entire episode, it's quite interesting!

There is an old Russian saying/proverb that goes "Better is the enemy of good enough."

Although often attributed to a Russian saying/proverb , much like the famous Stalin quote, "Quantity has a Quality all its own", it is actually a slight re-wording of a François-Marie Arouet (Voltaire) quote....'The perfect is the enemy of the good'.


But yeah, the pics don't inspire much confidence do they?

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Legionary74

Its a shame these were put to waste.

Russia should build more of these with up to date technology. Imagine them now? Still the worlds largest subs and probably the most powerful

Actually no its not I for one am glad to see the cold war era gone.

[Oberon]

I should imagine the Borei looks a bit more modern on the inside. I do have a fondness for the 'phoons, and I'm glad that at least Dmitri Donskoy is still operational for the time being as a missile test bed.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Admiral8Q

I agree, but we're in a new chapter. It never seems to end does it?

So very true. Makes one wonder sometimes.


To add to what Steamwake said; the Cold War era is one of those that is best left where it is.

[Takeda Shingen]

Soviet submarine designers had a penchant for extremes. This can be seen in the obsession with the 'largest' (Typhoon), 'fastest' (Alpha) and 'deepest' (Mike). The problem is that they tended to push the envelope further than what the technolgy of the day allowed. This meant that most of their designs were problematic, to say the least. In the case of the Typhoon, it was the enormous amount of maintenance required between patrols that made the boats too expensive to operate regularly. So the Typhoon really became a cool, if impractical submarine design.

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Although often attributed to a Russian saying/proverb , much like the famous Stalin quote, "Quantity has a Quality all its own", it is actually a slight re-wording of a François-Marie Arouet (Voltaire) quote....'The perfect is the enemy of the good'.


But yeah, the pics don't inspire much confidence do they?

I've never heard it attributed to a Russian proverb. It's usually attributed to Admiral Gorshkov, who probably adapted it from the similar quotes by Clausewitz and Voltaire.