Serious question for conservatives, liberals, and moderates

Platapus · 10-02-10, 11:41 AM

This is a serious question and I hope this thread does not get hijacked. If it does, I hope the moderators lock it

Look at this politicians platform. I would sincerely like to read opinions on his platform.

http://www.redpath2010.com/issues.htm

Now it is important to remember that this guy is a politician and that means that he is a cheat and a liar, and when he is not kissing babies, he is stealing their lollipops. (love that movie!)

Let's assume, for the sake of discussion that what he wrote is truly what he feels. What are your opinions on his platform?

10-02-10, 11:51 AM

Like many candidates for congress this man has some ideas with which I agree whole heartedly, others which I might agree if it weren't for the way he frames them, and would undoubtedly endorse, and others which just cannot work.

The real question, as always, do you believe ths man will represent you well.

Schöneboom · 10-02-10, 12:25 PM

Ciao Platypus,

It's a good platform for Libertarians, but even Redpath knows it wouldn't survive contact with reality (the 2 dominant parties and general stupidity). In my younger days I believed that political problems could be solved at the political level: i.e., support the right party, vote for the right candidates, push through the right agenda, and things would get better. I don't think it works that way anymore, if it ever did.

Re libertarianism in particular, the principles always sound reasonable on paper, but to implement them, esp. in our current Idiocracy, would result in riots (as in Europe these days), and possibly much worse. Among the things the platform completely sidesteps: leaving things to the "invisible hand" of the free market does not shift the power balance from those who have too much of it to those who have too little of it.

Platapus · 10-02-10, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Schöneboom

Ciao Platypus,

It's a good platform for Libertarians, but even Redpath knows it wouldn't survive contact with reality (the 2 dominant parties and general stupidity).

With much sadness, I believe you are most correct.

SteamWake · 10-02-10, 12:30 PM

Well he hit all the conservative talking points.

Popular these days.

Takeda Shingen · 10-02-10, 12:51 PM

Briefly on his points:

National Security--Full agreement.

The Economy--Yes on spending cuts.

No on budget cuts to DoT, Energy; our infastructure is in sad shape. We don't need additional spending, but we should not cut what we already have.

No on elimination of Department of Education. The No Child Left Behind act was ineffective. Current spending is ineffective also. Still some form of regulatory agency is needed if and when school reforms are pressed. It is clear that you cannot trust the individual districts to act without oversight. I've been on the inside of the industry, and I don't trust them; too many bad teachers, too many bad administrators.

Free Trade--Full agreement

Social Security--Full agreement

Tax Reform--I've always endorsed the flat tax.

Medicare--Full agreement

Medicare--Full agreement

Illegal Drugs--I actually endorse full legalization. Take the money out of the hands of the cartels and our southern border becomes much less dangerous. Tax the hell out of the stuff and we can lessen some of our burden.

Heath Care--Full agreement

Immigration--Full agreement

Unfortunately since he isn't on Team R or Team D, he'll likely be strangled in the general. Got to love the stagnation of the two-party system in American politics, right? Play to the extremes and forget about reason.

10-02-10, 11:41 AM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Serious question for conservatives, liberals, and moderates This is a serious question and I hope this thread does not get hijacked. If it does, I hope the moderators lock it Look at this politicians platform. I would sincerely like to read opinions on his platform. http://www.redpath2010.com/issues.htm Now it is important to remember that this guy is a politician and that means that he is a cheat and a liar, and when he is not kissing babies, he is stealing their lollipops. (love that movie!) Let's assume, for the sake of discussion that what he wrote is truly what he feels. What are your opinions on his platform? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-02-10, 12:25 PM	#3
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Ciao Platypus, It's a good platform for Libertarians, but even Redpath knows it wouldn't survive contact with reality (the 2 dominant parties and general stupidity). In my younger days I believed that political problems could be solved at the political level: i.e., support the right party, vote for the right candidates, push through the right agenda, and things would get better. I don't think it works that way anymore, if it ever did. Re libertarianism in particular, the principles always sound reasonable on paper, but to implement them, esp. in our current Idiocracy, would result in riots (as in Europe these days), and possibly much worse. Among the things the platform completely sidesteps: leaving things to the "invisible hand" of the free market does not shift the power balance from those who have too much of it to those who have too little of it. __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher." Last edited by Schöneboom; 10-02-10 at 01:23 PM.

10-02-10, 12:30 PM	#5
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well he hit all the conservative talking points. Popular these days. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-02-10, 11:51 AM	#2
The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Like many candidates for congress this man has some ideas with which I agree whole heartedly, others which I might agree if it weren't for the way he frames them, and would undoubtedly endorse, and others which just cannot work. The real question, as always, do you believe ths man will represent you well.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Briefly on his points: National Security--Full agreement. The Economy--Yes on spending cuts. No on budget cuts to DoT, Energy; our infastructure is in sad shape. We don't need additional spending, but we should not cut what we already have. No on elimination of Department of Education. The No Child Left Behind act was ineffective. Current spending is ineffective also. Still some form of regulatory agency is needed if and when school reforms are pressed. It is clear that you cannot trust the individual districts to act without oversight. I've been on the inside of the industry, and I don't trust them; too many bad teachers, too many bad administrators. Free Trade--Full agreement Social Security--Full agreement Tax Reform--I've always endorsed the flat tax. Medicare--Full agreement Medicare--Full agreement Illegal Drugs--I actually endorse full legalization. Take the money out of the hands of the cartels and our southern border becomes much less dangerous. Tax the hell out of the stuff and we can lessen some of our burden. Heath Care--Full agreement Immigration--Full agreement Unfortunately since he isn't on Team R or Team D, he'll likely be strangled in the general. Got to love the stagnation of the two-party system in American politics, right? Play to the extremes and forget about reason.