Critical hits

microlime · 09-22-10, 03:48 PM

Is there a way to turn off the ability to deal critical hits when using auto targeting w/o turning on manual targeting cuz Im not skilled enough to use it yet?

Having a small/coastal merch split in half instantly every time I send 1 eel feels kinda cheap

thanks

JokerOfFate · 09-22-10, 03:51 PM

No, I don't think so but for Realims sake it's a good thing.
Wait till later war when all you got in your patrol was an trawler

Jimbuna · 09-22-10, 04:44 PM

I presume your playing stock?

If I were you I'd maybe bite the bullet and attempt manual targetting from 500 metres or so, gradually increasing the distance....that way you will dispense with the vast majority of critical hits.

Kapt Z · 09-22-10, 08:11 PM

I know that since I've been using GWX the ships(of all types) tend to take much longer to sink than they do in the stock game. This seems to be the case regardless of manual/auto TDC.

frau kaleun · 09-22-10, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapt Z

I know that since I've been using GWX the ships(of all types) tend to take much longer to sink than they do in the stock game. This seems to be the case regardless of manual/auto TDC.

Yeah, my experience too. With GWX I get more "critical" hits - or at least cause more obvious and immediate damage - by unlocking the auto-target and moving it to what I hope will be a "sweet spot" than by letting it sit right dead center of the target. I barely played stock before installing GWX, though. Was locking the auto-target that way more likely to be a quick one-shot kill with the stock damage models?

microlime · 09-22-10, 08:57 PM

I have installed GWX 3 before and I kept gettin CTDS (I think it was on account of low sys spec) no matter what I did and I had to unistall so I am going to try GWX 2(or even gwx 1).

Stock works fine though no CTD only a bit of stutering and managable load times(5-7min load times)

Does this seem like a good compromise?

also on the note of Grey Wolves: I really liked GWX 3 so what differences should I expect in the other versions? eg: i liked GWX 3s array of ships the most and the AI that would hound you for what seemed liked hours

Sailor Steve · 09-22-10, 09:22 PM

In the stock game all ships have "hit points". Every ship, on taking its final hit point, will break in two and explode in a spectacular and very unrealistic fashion.

GWX3 changes it to a flooding system, so they sink in a more realistic manner.

Exactly what are your specs?

desirableroasted · 09-23-10, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Was locking the auto-target that way more likely to be a quick one-shot kill with the stock damage models?

I know that for the C3 and C2 merchants it was better to unlock and aim a bit aft of where the auto-lock pointed. Seemed to hit the engine room more reliably.

Herr-Berbunch · 09-23-10, 08:00 AM

To not get the 'critical' hits, do what I do and forget to open the tubes before firing...

Guarantee you'll never hit a critical spot again!

frau kaleun · 09-23-10, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted

I know that for the C3 and C2 merchants it was better to unlock and aim a bit aft of where the auto-lock pointed. Seemed to hit the engine room more reliably.

Lately I've been aiming for just below the funnel - seems to be working out pretty well in GWX.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

To not get the 'critical' hits, do what I do and forget to open the tubes before firing...

Guarantee you'll never hit a critical spot again!

Been there, done that!

Weiss Pinguin · 09-23-10, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

To not get the 'critical' hits, do what I do and forget to open the tubes before firing...

Guarantee you'll never hit a critical spot again!

Or fire a tube on the wrong end of the ship

09-23-10, 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=frau kaleun;1500409]Lately I've been aiming for just below the funnel - seems to be working out pretty well in GWX.
[QUOTE/]

Never fails for me, especially with magnetics!

Funnel shots do one of two things for me, either A stop the ship entirely, or slow her down a TON or B break her back and she sinks almost immediately, I always love watching ships break in two. Which brings me to a question I posted a while back, do they realistically break in two based on structural integrity ?? (Ie. you send a magnetic right under her center mass and compromise structure) Or with GWX is it they flood and then a random sinking occurs?? It seeeems like theyre based on situation and not just randomness. I have also had the fortune of watching a huge ship (cant remember what kind of cargo) sink in about 25-30m of water after I put about 4 torps right into her bow, it sank so fast that she got stuck in the mud and the back quarter of her stern stuck out of the water at a perfect 45* angle

K-61 · 09-23-10, 11:53 PM

I cannot recall seeing a ship snap in two in GWX for quite some time, except after it begins to sink. I fire most of my torpedoes on impact. The magnetic shots I take tend not to do that, but I usually aim for the middle in hopes of maximizing my odds of a hit. I think I will experiment with trying for hits further back. Even so, I saw so many ships snap in two from stock SH3 that I welcome not seeing it anymore.

Tessa · 09-27-10, 10:38 AM

A ships boilers are great targets when you actually nail em, usually kills all propulsion and ship can sink Titanic style (albeit the forecastle is what gets lifted into the air) with a single hit (really helps too when the boilers are adjacent to powder magazines).

Really rough waters and no more working propulsion ended up with a quick sinking with only 1 hit (waters were only ~90 meters deep so was able to check her out once she bottomed)

09-27-10, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by K-61

I cannot recall seeing a ship snap in two in GWX for quite some time, except after it begins to sink. I fire most of my torpedoes on impact. The magnetic shots I take tend not to do that, but I usually aim for the middle in hopes of maximizing my odds of a hit. I think I will experiment with trying for hits further back. Even so, I saw so many ships snap in two from stock SH3 that I welcome not seeing it anymore.

Hitting the back end works in stopping her too, but its incredibley hard. I was trailing a convoy in fog and came up on a ship and fired 2 magnetics at her, (I was directly behind her) one hit her right under her prop and litterally destroyed it and since she was turning at the time, the second hit farther toward the middle right under her. Funny thing though because she would NOT sink even in 15 knot winds I was dissapointed. It was a small ship too, she must have had one hell of a DC team.

09-22-10, 03:48 PM	#1
microlime Watch Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 17 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Critical hits Is there a way to turn off the ability to deal critical hits when using auto targeting w/o turning on manual targeting cuz Im not skilled enough to use it yet? Having a small/coastal merch split in half instantly every time I send 1 eel feels kinda cheap thanks

09-22-10, 04:44 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I presume your playing stock? If I were you I'd maybe bite the bullet and attempt manual targetting from 500 metres or so, gradually increasing the distance....that way you will dispense with the vast majority of critical hits. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-22-10, 08:11 PM	#4
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	I know that since I've been using GWX the ships(of all types) tend to take much longer to sink than they do in the stock game. This seems to be the case regardless of manual/auto TDC. __________________ ...I fought in many guises, many names, but always me. Patton

09-22-10, 08:57 PM	#6
microlime Watch Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 17 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	GWX 2 I have installed GWX 3 before and I kept gettin CTDS (I think it was on account of low sys spec) no matter what I did and I had to unistall so I am going to try GWX 2(or even gwx 1). Stock works fine though no CTD only a bit of stutering and managable load times(5-7min load times) Does this seem like a good compromise? also on the note of Grey Wolves: I really liked GWX 3 so what differences should I expect in the other versions? eg: i liked GWX 3s array of ships the most and the AI that would hound you for what seemed liked hours

09-22-10, 09:22 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	In the stock game all ships have "hit points". Every ship, on taking its final hit point, will break in two and explode in a spectacular and very unrealistic fashion. GWX3 changes it to a flooding system, so they sink in a more realistic manner. Exactly what are your specs? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-22-10, 03:51 PM	#2
JokerOfFate Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 387 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	No, I don't think so but for Realims sake it's a good thing. Wait till later war when all you got in your patrol was an trawler

09-23-10, 08:00 AM	#9
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	To not get the 'critical' hits, do what I do and forget to open the tubes before firing... Guarantee you'll never hit a critical spot again! __________________

09-23-10, 03:21 PM	#12
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	[QUOTE=frau kaleun;1500409]Lately I've been aiming for just below the funnel - seems to be working out pretty well in GWX. [QUOTE/] Never fails for me, especially with magnetics! Funnel shots do one of two things for me, either A stop the ship entirely, or slow her down a TON or B break her back and she sinks almost immediately, I always love watching ships break in two. Which brings me to a question I posted a while back, do they realistically break in two based on structural integrity ?? (Ie. you send a magnetic right under her center mass and compromise structure) Or with GWX is it they flood and then a random sinking occurs?? It seeeems like theyre based on situation and not just randomness. I have also had the fortune of watching a huge ship (cant remember what kind of cargo) sink in about 25-30m of water after I put about 4 torps right into her bow, it sank so fast that she got stuck in the mud and the back quarter of her stern stuck out of the water at a perfect 45* angle

09-23-10, 11:53 PM	#13
K-61 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 795 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I cannot recall seeing a ship snap in two in GWX for quite some time, except after it begins to sink. I fire most of my torpedoes on impact. The magnetic shots I take tend not to do that, but I usually aim for the middle in hopes of maximizing my odds of a hit. I think I will experiment with trying for hits further back. Even so, I saw so many ships snap in two from stock SH3 that I welcome not seeing it anymore. __________________

09-27-10, 10:38 AM	#14
Tessa Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CG 96 Posts: 861 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	A ships boilers are great targets when you actually nail em, usually kills all propulsion and ship can sink Titanic style (albeit the forecastle is what gets lifted into the air) with a single hit (really helps too when the boilers are adjacent to powder magazines). Really rough waters and no more working propulsion ended up with a quick sinking with only 1 hit (waters were only ~90 meters deep so was able to check her out once she bottomed)