Ever pulled a Capt. Dodge?

09-20-10, 11:23 PM

I was just wondering if all of you experienced Kaulens ever pulled a Capt. Dodge (Down Periscope) and pulled in underneath a huge slow moving tanker to avoid detection?? And would this help avoid detection?? seeing as how some one listening would hear the tankers screws and ASDIC would probably also pick you up as part of the keel of the tanker?? And if anyone has done it Id like to know how you did it. Especially if it was with no external camera

Just a thought because I just read a post about some one sneaking into Gibraltor that way.

And while we're on this topic, what all interesting /wacky tactics have you all used before that have worked??

JokerOfFate · 09-20-10, 11:49 PM

1) yes I have pulled one of those and the escort rammed the cargoship while trying to DC me.

2) That's sonar not a hydrophone ASDIC would pisk you up but a hydrophone wouldn't.

3) I sailed through two halfs of a sinking cargoship to stop a destroyer from catching me.

HW3 · 09-21-10, 12:56 AM

The escorts know you are under there and will circle the ship dropping depth charges trying to get you.

timmy41 · 09-21-10, 01:02 AM

sat under a large tanker once after sneaking in to a convoy, but i was caught. it was going 6 knots so i was able to stay under, but not for long. destroyers were constantly zigzagging along side too. after about 10 minutes under it i let out a bunch of decoys and dove as far as i could.
i think theyd still be able to detect you, and no ships go slow enough that you can stay under them at silent speed.

09-21-10, 01:05 AM

Dang, I really wish Ubi would just release the SDK already so you all could have a crack into turning the game into something greater than it is, Id love that feature (because I do believe in real life sitting under a ship would make you impossible to detect or at least almost because of the 'sound' of their screws and such) and the ability to bottom out and sit silent not being detected among other things.

Weiss Pinguin · 09-21-10, 09:16 AM

As it is now, (as far as I know) if you try to sneak in under a ship, the escorts will hear you and ignore the cargo ship. I don't think they even hear the ship up top

But, sitting under a ship will give you cover from attacking escorts as they can't get depth charges on you.

Herr-Berbunch · 09-21-10, 09:56 AM

Whenever I've tried hiding under a vessel in a convoy it always seems to be able to go faster then me

Sailor Steve · 09-21-10, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

Dang, I really wish Ubi would just release the SDK already so you all could have a crack into turning the game into something greater than it is, Id love that feature (because I do believe in real life sitting under a ship would make you impossible to detect or at least almost because of the 'sound' of their screws and such) and the ability to bottom out and sit silent not being detected among other things.

In real life it was theoretically possible, but you wouldn't be shielded from active sonar. Worse, they didn't have external view to confirm they were really right underneath, so it was a risky proposition at best.

09-21-10, 11:32 AM

But possible to do.

thats all Id need

JokerOfFate · 09-21-10, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

In real life it was theoretically possible, but you wouldn't be shielded from active sonar. Worse, they didn't have external view to confirm they were really right underneath, so it was a risky proposition at best.

*stops singing*
Periscope? slow cargo ship? dumb AI?
*continues singing johnny on the monorail*

Sailor Steve · 09-21-10, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JokerOfFate

Periscope? slow cargo ship? dumb AI?

In real life you can't see very far underwater, and it's dark, and the periscope seals are not overly strong, so it's a bad idea to raise one at much deeper than periscope depth. Matching speed and course with a moving ship is difficult even on a good day.

ralphnader23 · 09-21-10, 05:13 PM

Just make sure the ship you are under isn't that one you put a torpedo into 10 minutes ago...You might get a nasty surprise when it finally sinks

JokerOfFate · 09-21-10, 06:40 PM

If they don't know you're there, maybe it would be easier due to relaxed speeds.

What about 15m would that be too deep?

ralphnader23, you would be surprised to here the amount of times I've hit a sinking ship submerged.

desirableroasted · 09-21-10, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

But possible to do.

thats all Id need

It's technically, though not practically, possible. And so what? You can stay under the ship until it (and the escorts) despawn, but so what?

Of course, at just under keel you will need that sweet magic external cam. And why would you stay just under a keel? Why not 160 below it? At 160, you don't need to hide.

JokerOfFate · 09-21-10, 07:11 PM

Fun, mate
To use what a friend of mine said
"Why does a dog lick its nuts"

(Not sure if I can say that but what the heck)

09-20-10, 11:23 PM	#1
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Ever pulled a Capt. Dodge? I was just wondering if all of you experienced Kaulens ever pulled a Capt. Dodge (Down Periscope) and pulled in underneath a huge slow moving tanker to avoid detection?? And would this help avoid detection?? seeing as how some one listening would hear the tankers screws and ASDIC would probably also pick you up as part of the keel of the tanker?? And if anyone has done it Id like to know how you did it. Especially if it was with no external camera Just a thought because I just read a post about some one sneaking into Gibraltor that way. And while we're on this topic, what all interesting /wacky tactics have you all used before that have worked??

09-21-10, 12:56 AM	#3
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	The escorts know you are under there and will circle the ship dropping depth charges trying to get you. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

09-21-10, 09:16 AM	#6
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	As it is now, (as far as I know) if you try to sneak in under a ship, the escorts will hear you and ignore the cargo ship. I don't think they even hear the ship up top But, sitting under a ship will give you cover from attacking escorts as they can't get depth charges on you. __________________

09-21-10, 09:56 AM	#7
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Whenever I've tried hiding under a vessel in a convoy it always seems to be able to go faster then me __________________

09-20-10, 11:49 PM	#2
JokerOfFate Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 387 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	1) yes I have pulled one of those and the escort rammed the cargoship while trying to DC me. 2) That's sonar not a hydrophone ASDIC would pisk you up but a hydrophone wouldn't. 3) I sailed through two halfs of a sinking cargoship to stop a destroyer from catching me.

09-21-10, 01:02 AM	#4
timmy41 Weps Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 367 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	sat under a large tanker once after sneaking in to a convoy, but i was caught. it was going 6 knots so i was able to stay under, but not for long. destroyers were constantly zigzagging along side too. after about 10 minutes under it i let out a bunch of decoys and dove as far as i could. i think theyd still be able to detect you, and no ships go slow enough that you can stay under them at silent speed.

09-21-10, 01:05 AM	#5
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Dang, I really wish Ubi would just release the SDK already so you all could have a crack into turning the game into something greater than it is, Id love that feature (because I do believe in real life sitting under a ship would make you impossible to detect or at least almost because of the 'sound' of their screws and such) and the ability to bottom out and sit silent not being detected among other things.

09-21-10, 11:32 AM	#9
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	But possible to do. thats all Id need

09-21-10, 05:13 PM	#12
ralphnader23 Bosun Join Date: May 2010 Location: Periscope Depth Posts: 66 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Just make sure the ship you are under isn't that one you put a torpedo into 10 minutes ago...You might get a nasty surprise when it finally sinks

09-21-10, 06:40 PM	#13
JokerOfFate Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 387 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	If they don't know you're there, maybe it would be easier due to relaxed speeds. What about 15m would that be too deep? ralphnader23, you would be surprised to here the amount of times I've hit a sinking ship submerged.

09-21-10, 07:11 PM	#15
JokerOfFate Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 387 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Fun, mate To use what a friend of mine said "Why does a dog lick its nuts" (Not sure if I can say that but what the heck)