Is there something i can edit to get realistic crash dive times?

oscar19681 · 08-25-10, 01:38 PM

Is there? I mean it sucks that the u-boat can dive within 10 seconds even though i have not even upgraded the navigator (which i dont intend to do) Isnt there something to make the boat crash dive in 25 to 30 secs?

TheDarkWraith · 08-25-10, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar19681

Is there? I mean it sucks that the u-boat can dive within 10 seconds even though i have not even upgraded the navigator (which i dont intend to do) Isnt there something to make the boat crash dive in 25 to 30 secs?

my UIs mod gives you the ability to set the crash dive time.

oscar19681 · 08-25-10, 04:39 PM

Oh really ? How do i do that since i have you ui mod.

THE_MASK · 08-25-10, 04:48 PM

C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\MODS\NewUIs_TDC_4_0_3_ByTheDarkWraith\data\Scrip ts\Menu\TheDarkWraithUserOptions

##################################### Crash Dive (SH3/4/5 Modes) #####################################
# the hotkey used for crash dive
# Format:
#
# CrashDiveKey = [ False, None, False ]
# False = enabled
# None = key used
# False = shift key required
#
# so if you wanted the teleport to obs scope hot key to be shift + C:
# CrashDiveKey = [ True, MenuKeyManagerWrapper.Keys.P, True ]
#
# if you didn't want to assign a hotkey for teleport to obs scope:
# CrashDiveKey = [ False, MenuKeyManagerWrapper.Keys.P, False ]
CrashDiveKey = [ False, MenuKeyManagerWrapper.Keys.P, True ]
# teleport on crash dive? If enabled and you are currently submerged then no teleporting will take place
# change below to either True or False
TeleportOnCrashDive = True
# time interval to wait before giving the crash dive command (simulates crew clearing the topside deck) (this value is in seconds - i.e. 5.5 would be 5 and a half seconds). If submerged then there is no delay
TeleportOnCrashDiveWaitTime = 20

oscar19681 · 08-25-10, 05:02 PM

Yeah but i dont think that has anything to do how fast the boat goes under right? Isnt that only the delay before the boat actually crash dives? Im not talking about a delay before the boat dives but i want the boat to actually take about 30 seconds before its inderwater.

Ducimus · 08-25-10, 05:08 PM

It's a combination of Up down drag, displacement, and flood rate settings in the sub's sim file.

Edit: Displacement plays a fairly large role. Your first inclination may be to put the displacment at the historical settings, but that will not help you. These numbers are internal, and the player never see's them. What makes a boat dive slower is the difference between the surfaced and submerged displacement. An increment of 5 to 10 in the difference between the two can result in a second or so more, or less, in the dive time. IMO, It's generally unwise to rely on just one setting, as up down drag and floodrate also play a role.

oscar19681 · 08-25-10, 05:17 PM

So basicly we,re back to square one?

Ducimus · 08-25-10, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar19681

So basicly we,re back to square one?

Phhht. Would take 10 to 30 minutes to get it in the ballpark. Start with displacement. Try increasing the submerged displacement by about 500 for starters and see how that effects your dive time. (edit: Although you may have to zero out mass ) Now go forth and play with the editor!

oscar19681 · 08-25-10, 05:37 PM

I would if i knew where to look for the stuff you mentioned.

Ducimus · 08-25-10, 05:43 PM

I told you. Sub's sim file. The way the goblin editor works, (like a project workspace) you'll have to load that dat/sim/zon simultaniously. Edit the sub's controllers. It's in there, and it's not hard.

edit: Be sure to copy said files into their own subdirectory on your desktop or something as sort of a working copy. Then copy your altered files into a JSGME test modlet.

08-25-10, 06:20 PM

Be aware of one thing though when editing files!
IF you are useing TDW's or SteelVikings modded sim files?
(Smoke by TDW and/or external effects stuff by SteelViking)
You CAN NOT use Goblin!
It will trash the files!

Capt Jack Harkness · 08-26-10, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Phhht. Would take 10 to 30 minutes to get it in the ballpark. Start with displacement. Try increasing the submerged displacement by about 500 for starters and see how that effects your dive time. (edit: Although you may have to zero out mass ) Now go forth and play with the editor!

Does zero mass mean the game uses displacement as mass? And does the boat maintain depth better if it is set to zero?

08-25-10, 01:38 PM	#1
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Is there something i can edit to get realistic crash dive times? Is there? I mean it sucks that the u-boat can dive within 10 seconds even though i have not even upgraded the navigator (which i dont intend to do) Isnt there something to make the boat crash dive in 25 to 30 secs? __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

08-25-10, 04:39 PM	#3
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Oh really ? How do i do that since i have you ui mod. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

08-25-10, 05:02 PM	#5
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Yeah but i dont think that has anything to do how fast the boat goes under right? Isnt that only the delay before the boat actually crash dives? Im not talking about a delay before the boat dives but i want the boat to actually take about 30 seconds before its inderwater. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

08-25-10, 05:17 PM	#7
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	So basicly we,re back to square one? __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

08-25-10, 05:37 PM	#9
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I would if i knew where to look for the stuff you mentioned. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

08-25-10, 04:48 PM	#4
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\MODS\NewUIs_TDC_4_0_3_ByTheDarkWraith\data\Scrip ts\Menu\TheDarkWraithUserOptions ##################################### Crash Dive (SH3/4/5 Modes) ##################################### # the hotkey used for crash dive # Format: # # CrashDiveKey = [ False, None, False ] # False = enabled # None = key used # False = shift key required # # so if you wanted the teleport to obs scope hot key to be shift + C: # CrashDiveKey = [ True, MenuKeyManagerWrapper.Keys.P, True ] # # if you didn't want to assign a hotkey for teleport to obs scope: # CrashDiveKey = [ False, MenuKeyManagerWrapper.Keys.P, False ] CrashDiveKey = [ False, MenuKeyManagerWrapper.Keys.P, True ] # teleport on crash dive? If enabled and you are currently submerged then no teleporting will take place # change below to either True or False TeleportOnCrashDive = True # time interval to wait before giving the crash dive command (simulates crew clearing the topside deck) (this value is in seconds - i.e. 5.5 would be 5 and a half seconds). If submerged then there is no delay TeleportOnCrashDiveWaitTime = 20

08-25-10, 05:08 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	It's a combination of Up down drag, displacement, and flood rate settings in the sub's sim file. Edit: Displacement plays a fairly large role. Your first inclination may be to put the displacment at the historical settings, but that will not help you. These numbers are internal, and the player never see's them. What makes a boat dive slower is the difference between the surfaced and submerged displacement. An increment of 5 to 10 in the difference between the two can result in a second or so more, or less, in the dive time. IMO, It's generally unwise to rely on just one setting, as up down drag and floodrate also play a role.

08-25-10, 05:43 PM	#10
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I told you. Sub's sim file. The way the goblin editor works, (like a project workspace) you'll have to load that dat/sim/zon simultaniously. Edit the sub's controllers. It's in there, and it's not hard. edit: Be sure to copy said files into their own subdirectory on your desktop or something as sort of a working copy. Then copy your altered files into a JSGME test modlet.

08-25-10, 06:20 PM	#11
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Be aware of one thing though when editing files! IF you are useing TDW's or SteelVikings modded sim files? (Smoke by TDW and/or external effects stuff by SteelViking) You CAN NOT use Goblin! It will trash the files!