How's the hold out crowd holding up?

[Boats]

I count myself in the group, holding out until the DRM issue is deleted. BUT curiosity is attacking this cat. I come here and read the posts daily hoping for a big announcement that's it's safe to get back into the SH waters. This might be a mistake since I've been itching to see what the flashing lights and pretty pictures look like. I am interested in this game so it's not like I wouldn't like to buy it, as a consequence my principles are warring with my curiosity lately. I even went as far as calling my local Gamestop to see if they have any copies. They have 1. I'm loosing my grip, need to be refreshed to continue the course. But only one copy in this area, must... resist. DRM Bones, DRM!!!

So how many have fallen so far? I'm at the edge, need to step away from the precipise. Only thing to see is the red of frustration, of this I'm aware. Frustration abounds if I go over.

For those tired of us wannabe SH5 skippers whinning that we're not, back out of this post and shut the door behind you. Like I said, I want to buy SH5.

[tater]

I'll never buy a title with this scheme unless the benefits outweigh the negatives. That'd require actual streaming content, or some sort of "drop in" multiplayer to even consider it worth the risk of ever being prevented from using the title due to server/internet failures.

Put that in the bank.

[SteamWake]

Try askin in the SH3 / 4 sections

[The General]

@Boats,

you are missing out in a big way! SH5 is getting more and more fantastic every day! DRM is never a problem. Come on in and join the fun

[Sailor Steve]

I was in Best Buy the other day, and saw it on the shelf. Picked up the box, read the front and back, saw the note on the front that's quoted in my sig, put it back, shook my head and walked away laughing.

They couldn't give it to me as long as they won't let me play it anyway. No problems here.

[Cavell]

Originally Posted by The General

DRM is never a problem.

I can think of some consumers subjected to Starforce who'd disagree with you. Not to mention those who run into issues with Ubisoft's current monster.


As for holding out? Doing fine. The more I think about it, the more I doubt I'll actually like SHV all that much; having to run around the sub constantly sounds like it would get awfully old awfully quickly anyway, and like others have said, I'm certainly not buying it until the always-on DRM goes away. Wouldn't be able to play it when I go overseas in a couple months here anyway.

[Boats]

But as a former sailor I'm really interested in the ability to inspection my boat from stem to stern. Not being able to get past certain bulkheads was OK in the past, but development has come a long way. When I drove boats as a coxswain there wasn't any compartment off limits to me, even the snipes' hideaway. So to me the whole boat would make the game all the more immersive.

But DRM.

[Kapitanleutnant]

I'm doing fine. Not bought it, and don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not playing it. I follow this forum mostly to have a chuckle at all the fallout.

[Nisgeis]

One thing I would say Boats, is that reading about the game here won't prepare you for playing the game. It's really a new sort of experience and it's a little weird to start off with, but once you get used to it, it's no different to getting used to the strangeness of previous versions. Whatever you think the game will be like when you play it, it will probably 'feel' different to what you expect.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Boats

But as a former sailor I'm really interested in the ability to inspection my boat from stem to stern. Not being able to get past certain bulkheads was OK in the past, but development has come a long way. When I drove boats as a coxswain there wasn't any compartment off limits to me, even the snipes' hideaway. So to me the whole boat would make the game all the more immersive.

But DRM.

I completely agree: walking around the boat looks like fun while not in combat. In combat, I as the captain should be in the control room or conning tower, or on the bridge, giving orders directly, through speaking tubes or through messengers.

The way they apparently have it set up now seems silly - assuming the reports I'm reading are accurate and not that some people are just not understanding how to work it properly.

[Cavell]

Originally Posted by Boats

But as a former sailor I'm really interested in the ability to inspection my boat from stem to stern. Not being able to get past certain bulkheads was OK in the past, but development has come a long way. When I drove boats as a coxswain there wasn't any compartment off limits to me, even the snipes' hideaway. So to me the whole boat would make the game all the more immersive.

But DRM.

Oh, I'm sure it's certainly more immersive. However, I'm sure it also gets quite old having to run the length of the ship to get certain things done, if that is in fact the case.

You should absolutely do what you want. If you're opposed to the DRM, stick to your guns. Ubi's hoping you don't. If you're not that opposed and want to play, then buy the game.

If you stick it out, you'll be able to wait until the price drops, there have been some patches released, and the mods have been polished to a brilliant shine. If you don't, you'll get to play it right away and have your curiosity sated. Up to you.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Hate everything i see, hear and click.


major screwup.

First mission, invasion of poland, straight to battle.
aha. how do i get up the ladder?
UGH, FPS Style, just run against it and keep bangin yer head against the tubes. It ll get you up on the deck.

fast forward... message: sink a polish trio.
instructions: point your periscope, launch the eels.
no control over the boat whatsoever...
draw course, follow it, get back to last course... took me 30 minutes to find out.
Menues activate step by step... wtf... i have to be guided like a fekkin first time player, instructions are poor to nonexistant, how to move crews around can not be done at all so far...
getting back to kiel...wanna enter da subpen... get my nose stuck in the "damage Box" of the subpen...
entering a subpen is not what you are sposed to do.
gotta click an anchor icon. aha.

*Throws a VERY large trout at those who decided to go FPS style with this*
*Throws a slightly less small trout at those who did not stop this madness*

Never. never in my entire life can you sell me such a piesse of scheisse. Eyes wide open, i am shocked.
even vanilla SHIII was more intuitive than this.

and all the rest of the complaints are true: cannot dive with crew on deck, no appearent way to move the crew (management icon is not doing anything, in order to dive, as i said before, you sit in this VII/a like a Noob, trying to figure out WHAT the hell you are supposed to do with no indications on HOW to do it?

and only Half the Keyboard controls of the SHIII boats, roughly.

Absolutely disgusted.
Fire the entire team. the e.n.t.i.r.e team
Past achievements dont guarantee future successes.

[KiwiVenge]

Would love to buy it, could maybe even manage to accept DRM if it worked flawlessly.
However, I know I would go off the deep end if I caved in and bought the game and ended up being one of the ones that had problems logging into the auth servers or had any DRM related problems.
I would be telling myself I knew better but would not even listen to myself ....

[magic452]

Was in Walmart the other day, they had two copies and they still do.
Aside from OSP there is not much I really care for in SH5.
Just don't like the way the game plays, That silly mini map???????

I'm sticking to SH4 and TMO 1.9

Magic

[Boats]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I completely agree: walking around the boat looks like fun while not in combat. In combat, I as the captain should be in the control room or conning tower, or on the bridge, giving orders directly, through speaking tubes or through messengers.

The way they apparently have it set up now seems silly - assuming the reports I'm reading are accurate and not that some people are just not understanding how to work it properly.

I agree, battle station for the captain should be at the con or in the control room and I would hope the interface would reflect this (the issuance of orders without a need to move too much). I read that it may not be so, but if I could mod that would be one of the first things I'd work on. All commands handily available to the skipper from those two stations.