New System Question

Fish40 · 07-20-10, 11:30 AM

Well thanks to our union winning a grievance settlement with our employer (USPS), we were awarded a decent cash reward. Not enough for a new car, but more than enough for a shiny new rig

Anyway, the machine is comeing with Windows7. I've been reading a few posts of people haveing some probs. with W7 and I am becomeing somewhat nervous. I understand about makeing a folder on the C/drive and installing the game there. What I want to know is, if it is really needed to install DX9, instead of useing DX11 which I'm pretty sure is comeing installed.

Any advice for a troublefree transition would be appreciated

cdrsubron7 · 07-20-10, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

Well thanks to our union winning a grievance settlement with our employer (USPS), we were awarded a decent cash reward. Not enough for a new car, but more than enough for a shiny new rig

Anyway, the machine is comeing with Windows7. I've been reading a few posts of people haveing some probs. with W7 and I am becomeing somewhat nervous. I understand about makeing a folder on the C/drive and installing the game there. What I want to know is, if it is really needed to install DX9, instead of useing DX11 which I'm pretty sure is comeing installed.

Any advice for a troublefree transition would be appreciated

Yes, it is necessary to install DX9 in order to run SHIV correctly. It will not harm anything else. Follow the installation instructions in this thread you should have no problems. I have six different versions of SHIV with accompanying mods and they all run just fine under Win 7. I'm running Win 7 Ultimate and really like it as an OS. If you should run into difficulties come back here and post your problems, this forum is a great place to get help and advice.

Jan Kyster · 07-20-10, 12:39 PM

SHIV requires DirectX9 and you should install the one on the disc. That does not mean you miss out DirectX11, so don't worry.

I can recommend creating a partition on your harddrive for games/data etc. so you have seperate systemdrive and datadrive.
It will save you a lot of work when/if you in the future wants to reinstall or restore Windows 7.

Windows 7 and Silent Hunter runs extremely well and troublefree.

Unless you install in programfolder. Or use the Steam version...

Fish40 · 07-20-10, 01:55 PM

Thanks guys for the encouraging news. It's always good to know that help is just a click away

WernherVonTrapp · 07-20-10, 05:09 PM

Ooooh!

How about a sneak-peek at your new system's specs.

Fish40 · 07-20-10, 09:29 PM

Fair enough! Here's the meat and potatoes: First off, this is a Cyberpower Gamer Xtreme XI which I upgraded slightly from the base configuration. The CPU is an Intel Core i7-960 @3.20gh

MB: Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/Crossfire

Memory: 6gigs Corsair Dominator DDR3

GPU: 2x ATI HD 5850 in Crossfire mode

Sound: Creative Labs X-FI Xtreme Gamer

PSU: Corsair PSU @950wts.

I opted for the maximum number of 120mm case fans available, but the CPU is cooled by an Asetek 570LX liquid cooling system.

Well there it is. The major parts that is. This is my first true gameing system which I hope will last me for a while!

Sailor Steve · 07-20-10, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

Yes, it is necessary to install DX9 in order to run SHIV correctly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

SHIV requires DirectX9 and you should install the one on the disc.

Are you guys really sure about that? I know the box says DX9, but is SH4 worse than SH3? Is it a step backwards? Does DX10 and DX11 throw out features from DX9, so things don't work with them?

SH3's box says DX9 or higher. SH4's doesn't, but that is the way it usually works. Yes, older DOS games won't run on newer machines and need DosBox, but newer versions of DX should run SH4 just fine.

Jan Kyster · 07-20-10, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Are you guys really sure about that?

My SHIV install didn't run stable until I installed the DirectX 9 that came with SHIV. Missing DLL perhaps or lack of compatiblity?

Anyway, you won't "harm" your Win7 by adding v9...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

...This is my first true gameing system which I hope will last me for a while!

Sure it will...

Nice rig, btw.!

WernherVonTrapp · 07-21-10, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

Fair enough! Here's the meat and potatoes: First off, this is a Cyberpower Gamer Xtreme XI which I upgraded slightly from the base configuration. The CPU is an Intel Core i7-960 @3.20gh

MB: Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/Crossfire

Memory: 6gigs Corsair Dominator DDR3

GPU: 2x ATI HD 5850 in Crossfire mode

Sound: Creative Labs X-FI Xtreme Gamer

PSU: Corsair PSU @950wts.

I opted for the maximum number of 120mm case fans available, but the CPU is cooled by an Asetek 570LX liquid cooling system.

Well there it is. The major parts that is. This is my first true gameing system which I hope will last me for a while!

Sweeeet! That sounds like an awesome setup.

Good luck with your new system. I'll bet you can't wait to try out SHIV on it. Oooooh, I'm starting to drool just thinking about it.

Fish40 · 07-21-10, 09:26 AM

quote:Are you guys really sure about that? I know the box says DX9, but is SH4 worse than SH3? Is it a step backwards? Does DX10 and DX11 throw out features from DX9, so things don't work with them?

SH3's box says DX9 or higher. SH4's doesn't, but that is the way it usually works. Yes, older DOS games won't run on newer machines and need DosBox, but newer versions of DX should run SH4 just fine.
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I have to agree with Steve. Overwriting DX11 with DX9 is going backwards. What about applications that will use DX11? In the past, I've installed games which used an older version of DX (the version available at the game's release) and I had the most recent version installed. I never experienced a single problem with this. Is there anyone out there useing a higher version of DX with SH4 without complications? I'm reluctant to discard DX11 straight away. I'll try SH with 11 and see what happens.

@Werner: Thanks man. This has been a long time in comeing, and I'm certainly looking forwards to it!

Jan Kyster · 07-21-10, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

Overwriting DX11 with DX9 is going backwards...

Easy now!

You don't overwrite anything. You add stuff... like installing SHIV doesn't overwrite SHIII...

Only mentioned it since I'm not the only one, who "had to" install some missing d9 stuff.
If you don't experience any problems, then all's fine and well, but if you should have some stability issues or it won't start properly, then you already have a tip to test!

If you want to check what DirectX version you're running, use program DXDiag. Mine still says 11...

Wilcke · 07-21-10, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

Easy now!

You don't overwrite anything. You add stuff... like installing SHIV doesn't overwrite SHIII...

Only mentioned it since I'm not the only one, who "had to" install some missing d9 stuff.
If you don't experience any problems, then all's fine and well, but if you should have some stability issues or it won't start properly, then you already have a tip to test!

If you want to check what DirectX version you're running, use program DXDiag. Mine still says 11...

Concur, let SH4 install everything, in fact the installer searches for the correct files, if found will do nothing. Best of luck!

Fish40 · 07-21-10, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

Easy now!

You don't overwrite anything. You add stuff... like installing SHIV doesn't overwrite SHIII...

Only mentioned it since I'm not the only one, who "had to" install some missing d9 stuff.
If you don't experience any problems, then all's fine and well, but if you should have some stability issues or it won't start properly, then you already have a tip to test!

If you want to check what DirectX version you're running, use program DXDiag. Mine still says 11...

So just to be clear, the DX on the game disc is only needed files for the game. I would just be adding the DX files for the game, but still keep whatever version of DX came shipped with the PC? If that's correct, then no problem.

cdrsubron7 · 07-21-10, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

So just to be clear, the DX on the game disc is only needed files for the game. I would just be adding the DX files for the game, but still keep whatever version of DX came shipped with the PC? If that's correct, then no problem.

You are correct, Fish40. Installing the DX9 from the SHIV installation disk will not harm the installed version of DX11 that came with your OS.

Fish40 · 07-28-10, 01:04 PM

Just an update. New system hooked up. Ordered and installed SH4 Gold. What a difference! I didn't know what I was missing! The game looks like you're watching HDTV. Followed the directions posted for Windows Vista/7 installation, installed DX9 files from the game disc, and all seems silky smooth so far. Thanks AVG for the sticky post.

Really impressed so far with this system. The size of the Cooler Master case alone is impressive. I must say I'm likeing Windows 7 so far. I ran all my installs as administrator with no probs. as of yet.

07-20-10, 11:30 AM	#1
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	New System Question Well thanks to our union winning a grievance settlement with our employer (USPS), we were awarded a decent cash reward. Not enough for a new car, but more than enough for a shiny new rig Anyway, the machine is comeing with Windows7. I've been reading a few posts of people haveing some probs. with W7 and I am becomeing somewhat nervous. I understand about makeing a folder on the C/drive and installing the game there. What I want to know is, if it is really needed to install DX9, instead of useing DX11 which I'm pretty sure is comeing installed. Any advice for a troublefree transition would be appreciated

07-20-10, 05:09 PM	#5
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Ooooh! How about a sneak-peek at your new system's specs. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

07-20-10, 12:39 PM	#3
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	SHIV requires DirectX9 and you should install the one on the disc. That does not mean you miss out DirectX11, so don't worry. I can recommend creating a partition on your harddrive for games/data etc. so you have seperate systemdrive and datadrive. It will save you a lot of work when/if you in the future wants to reinstall or restore Windows 7. Windows 7 and Silent Hunter runs extremely well and troublefree. Unless you install in programfolder. Or use the Steam version...

07-20-10, 01:55 PM	#4
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys for the encouraging news. It's always good to know that help is just a click away

07-20-10, 09:29 PM	#6
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Fair enough! Here's the meat and potatoes: First off, this is a Cyberpower Gamer Xtreme XI which I upgraded slightly from the base configuration. The CPU is an Intel Core i7-960 @3.20gh MB: Asus P6T Intel X58 Chipset SLI/Crossfire Memory: 6gigs Corsair Dominator DDR3 GPU: 2x ATI HD 5850 in Crossfire mode Sound: Creative Labs X-FI Xtreme Gamer PSU: Corsair PSU @950wts. I opted for the maximum number of 120mm case fans available, but the CPU is cooled by an Asetek 570LX liquid cooling system. Well there it is. The major parts that is. This is my first true gameing system which I hope will last me for a while!

07-21-10, 09:26 AM	#10
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	quote:Are you guys really sure about that? I know the box says DX9, but is SH4 worse than SH3? Is it a step backwards? Does DX10 and DX11 throw out features from DX9, so things don't work with them? SH3's box says DX9 or higher. SH4's doesn't, but that is the way it usually works. Yes, older DOS games won't run on newer machines and need DosBox, but newer versions of DX should run SH4 just fine. __________________ I have to agree with Steve. Overwriting DX11 with DX9 is going backwards. What about applications that will use DX11? In the past, I've installed games which used an older version of DX (the version available at the game's release) and I had the most recent version installed. I never experienced a single problem with this. Is there anyone out there useing a higher version of DX with SH4 without complications? I'm reluctant to discard DX11 straight away. I'll try SH with 11 and see what happens. @Werner: Thanks man. This has been a long time in comeing, and I'm certainly looking forwards to it!

07-28-10, 01:04 PM	#15
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Just an update. New system hooked up. Ordered and installed SH4 Gold. What a difference! I didn't know what I was missing! The game looks like you're watching HDTV. Followed the directions posted for Windows Vista/7 installation, installed DX9 files from the game disc, and all seems silky smooth so far. Thanks AVG for the sticky post. Really impressed so far with this system. The size of the Cooler Master case alone is impressive. I must say I'm likeing Windows 7 so far. I ran all my installs as administrator with no probs. as of yet.