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Old 07-16-10, 06:44 PM   #1
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A few questions .

Is it true that the hull penetrations are no larger than 26” (Ohio Class excluded for obvious reason) including the weapons shipping hatch?

Are the passageways only 30”?

Why the wood venier? Because it weighs less than paint?

Does Rickover’s rule concerning penetration of the reactor compartment hold in the Virginia class boats? Electric only.

How many folks occupy the ‘attack center’ during a normal evolution?
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You're obviously are a chubby tree-hugging fellow who plans to sabatoge one of our boats.

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Old 07-16-10, 07:32 PM   #3
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You're obviously are a chubby tree-hugging fellow who plans to sabatoge one of our boats.

Ah yes... Sherlock Holmes, Charlie Chan, Agent 86, and Breadcatcher.

I just want to know. More tech than most perhaps but certainly not what you subscribe.
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You're obviously are a chubby tree-hugging fellow who plans to sabatoge one of our boats.

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Beyond frame 57 is classified. I know that.
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Old 07-16-10, 07:57 PM   #5
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A few questions .

Is it true that the hull penetrations are no larger than 26” (Ohio Class excluded for obvious reason) including the weapons shipping hatch?
Ohio class is not an SSN.

Halibut had a 22 foot hatch for loading and unloading the Regulus missiles. This was reused for loading special gear when the sub became an SSN.

Other than boats with SLBM tubes I can't think of any other nuclear boats with a hole larger than 26" in the pressure hull (Hydrodynamic hull is another story).

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Are the passageways only 30”?
not sure the exact size but from these photos (of a RN SSN) they look about 30 inches:



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Why the wood venier? Because it weighs less than paint?
Looks nice (crew morale). US Boats since before WWII have had it although its removed in wartime since its a fire hazard.
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Old 07-16-10, 08:13 PM   #6
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Ohio class is not an SSN.
I think if you re-read my quiry you know I know that,
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Old 07-16-10, 08:37 PM   #7
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Well I was on an Ohio, not a SSN but I can still answer questions. TLAM Strike has most of the answers down already. I am a little curious about the removal of the veneer being removed for any reason. There's far more flammable and dangerous materials on a boat like the hull insulation or the EOG.

As for manning in the attack center; if by "attack center" you mean the Control Room, and by "normal evolution" you mean the normal watch section then not too many. There's the OOD, Dive, COW, Helmsman, Planesman, FTOW, QMOW, and the Messenger at minimum. So 8ish, there can be more Helmsmen and Planesmen depending upon the amount qualified in the watch section.

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Does Rickover’s rule concerning penetration of the reactor compartment hold in the Virginia class boats? Electric only.
Not sure what you're getting at with this. It wouldn't be a Rickover rule per se, but a Naval Reactors rule. This may help explain a little more about nuclear propulsion.

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sturgen/ los angeles diagrms. but it doesn't answeer my questions.







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Old 07-16-10, 08:50 PM   #9
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There's the OOD, Dive, COW, Helmsman, Planesman, FTOW, QMOW, and the Messenger at minimum.
There is a start. Thank you.
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Per my diagram you have at least three penetrations into the RC: Steam going out, condensate coming back in, and electrical. AT some point you may want to change the air in there for what ever reason so there's four penetrations.

edit: Your pictures of the "USS Devilfish" there, there is no USS Devilfish SSN 666. SSN 666 was the Hawkbill, a Sturgeon still but curious that it's renamed in the picture.
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http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2005/MAB0501.htm

Look at figure 7.
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I appreciate the answers but none answeer the questions.

Is it true that the hull penetrations are no larger than 26” (Ohio Class excluded for obvious reason) including the weapons shipping hatch?

Are the passageways only 30”?


Why the wood venier? Because it weighs less than paint?

Does Rickover’s rule concerning penetration of the reactor compartment hold in the Virginia class boats? Electric only.

How many folks occupy the ‘attack center’ during a normal evolution?
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Call me paranoid, but the word "OpSec" is screaming at me.
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edit: Your pictures of the "USS Devilfish" there, there is no USS Devilfish SSN 666. SSN 666 was the Hawkbill, a Sturgeon still but curious that it's renamed in the picture.
http://www.ussdevilfish.com/index01.htm
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Well that explains it.
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