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Old 06-27-10, 05:59 AM   #1
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Default Muhammad's ball, or: what Islam has done to the French National Team

I apologize that this is only for those who understand German, I did not find equivalnet essays in English, but I find this too important and too interesting an explanation for the French drama.

I have indicated in the football threat that I have a problem with one or two German players as well, namely Mesut Özil, and this problem I have with him because of the same reasons that seem to have led to the meltdown in the French team. I refer to intereviews of Özil from 1 week or 10 days ago, and another one several months ago. In the first he said that he will never sing the naional anthem, for he focusses on the recitation of Quran Suras instead and finds it difficult to realise in those 2, 3 minutes that he plays for his - claimed - German home nation. This may not rasie much criticism, since several other players of Islamic and christian faith do not sing the anthem as well and have their own way to focus on the match, and I personally also am no fetishist to sing the anthem. I consider it to be a good motivational thing for players of a National team, though. However, in the other interview I saw him in, he again insisted that he refuses to identitfy himself with his role of playing "for Germany", that time he explained it because to him his Turkish identity goes first. - I therefore want to ask him then why he does not live in Turkey, and why he does not play in the Turkish national team, then? Özil is a very good footballer, a creative player with agility and creativity, no doubt. But still - this is no championship of internationally composed clubs recruiting legionairs, this is a national team, and identification should and could be expected to be part of the job description if playing in such kind of team. - Özil recently affianced with (?) the sister of pop-singer Sarah Connor, but before - that women had to convert to Islam. She said she did it for love. If love is what it is about, one could ask why Özil and /or his family clan for the sake of love could not simply ignore the religious issue alltogether, and "gave love a chance" not before she was willing to convert?

Almost half of the German players have a migration background they write in the press, which makes the German team one of the most multicultural teams at this championship. they are from places like Spain, Marocco, Poland, Turkey, Ghana, Brazil. None of them has left any doubt that they take pride from representing Germany, and that while they also sympathise with their original homeland's teams (isn't that just all to natural?), they now prioritize Germany in their sentiments, without limits, and even when playing against teams from their former homes (like Podolski had to do some years back). Just Mesut Özil, Turkish roots and confessing to be a devout Muslim for whom his religion plays a great role, refuses to do show that ammount of identification with the German national team, both over relgious and ethnic/nationalistic reasons. And that's why I have a problem with him wearing the german dress.

The following two essays point at those French players who incited the revolt in the French team, showing a derogatory, haughty behavior and a voculaburly that is somewhat typical for islamic Herrenmenschen-culture, and all the rebels have one thing in common - they all are original or converted Muslims, showing and expressing a huge ammount of behavioural and verbal contempt for the non-Muslim trainers and team "mates" whom they managed to bully into intimidated passivity instead of these other players (a majority of the team!) speaking out against them, what they easily could have done, if only they would have wanted.

The sources of the essays are a website of the Coptian communiy, the other is a blog where a lady comments on islamic and ME political issues quite intelligently.


http://koptisch.wordpress.com/2010/0...hte/#more-3927

http://www.eussner.net/artikel_2010-06-24_09-55-11.html
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