What does elenaiba say...

[urfisch]

...to all this critiscm? I recently bought it due to modding wants. Havent played it yet, but i read all this negative vibes from objective members here...who havent complained about the game before and are now deeply upset with it.

I thought about, what do you think on all this? As a man.

Originally Posted by urfisch

...to all this critiscm? I recently bought it due to modding wants. Havent played it yet, but i read all this negative vibes from objective members here...who havent complained about the game before and are now deeply upset with it.

I thought about, what do you think on all this? As a man.

Don't expect a straight answer, don't be naive ...

[Sonarman]

He would probably say that his nickname is spelled elanaiba not elenaiba! But he's probably too busy fixing things to say anything right now.

Originally Posted by Sonarman

He would probably say that his nickname is spelled elanaiba not elenaiba! But he's probably too busy fixing things to say anything right now.

Yes, I bet he is very busy right now working ... Actually, right about now he is very busy trying to convince people that the DRM is still alive. This is his major problem now, his number on epriority now, on "DRM has failed" thread:
"That is not a full crack, the game won't work as intended." elenaiba
Defending the nest, the hands that feeds you principles ...

[Tomi_099]

I think he says it's all a matter of time and money, and the time did not!

Originally Posted by Tomi_099

I think he says it's all a matter of time and money, and the time did not!

Every time I see The Grey Wolves related images I realize again who are the ones that deserves praise and respect.

[MGR1]

Although I haven't bought SH5, I think that, generally, people need to be very, very careful how they phrase things when criticizing/offering feedback.

Yes, it does seem that, like SH4, SH5 is another unfinished game, for various reasons.

Yes, people are going to have their hopes raised and then dashed because X, Y and Z aren't in the game or have been poorly implemented.

Yes, people are going to vent their frustration.

Constant negative "vibes" are going to be counterproductive.

Keep doing this and elanaiba and the other devs are going to develop a "seige mentality", if they haven't already developed one!

A lot of what seems to have occured with SH5 (and this is my own view) is due to time. The devs probably pitched the new features to the publishers, but either weren't given a realistic time schedule, or something happened during the developement phase - something must have taken longer than planned. This put other things behind, which has had an impact on the game as released.

Perhaps, the beta-testers are too close to the design process to give cold, hard constructive feedback to give the devs an impartial view of a game they have been working with near constantly.

If you are doing that, as in being so close you "can't see the wood for the trees" and can't take a step back and view utterly impartially, of course things are going to be missed. Perhaps a lack of fresh eyes ,as it were, hampers tha design process?

Who knows.

Either way, it's clear that, as it currently stands, the game ain't that good. Hopefully, patches and mods will go a long way to fixing things, but we'll see if SH5 survives the negativity.

So the moral is, be careful how you say things. Think long and hard before hitting the keyboard!

Just a thought,

Mike.

Originally Posted by MGR1

Keep doing this and elanaiba and the other devs are going to develop a "seige mentality", if they haven't already developed one!

Please ...The devs are not some saints, they are not some kind of martyrs either. They have good qualities and they have some bad ones. One of my bad qualities is that I may not be so diplomatic as the average guy here, but still, I am not trying to insult anyone. The devs simply must take responsibility for their products. Unless you are seeing them as fragile as Barbie puppets, or some china. They are supposed to be men. I am still waiting to find out if they really are.

[jwilliams]

I would say that he is here to read feed back and to read what problems we are having with the game.

He's not here to be insulted and flamed.

And the fact that he is here at all. Shows that he cares about this game and about subsim member.

[IpseDixit]

Well, obviously he's too preoccupied doing swan dives into his Olympic-size swimming pool filled with gold coins (Scrooge McDuck-style) and cackling fiendishly to answer your question right away!

[urfisch]

ubi is responsable...not the devs. cause the devs could say anything they want...if ubi doesnt take it, it cant be progressed. simply that way. i didnt think it was the devs idea to make the game like that...and if so, it was the project leader, who decided. but i think it was an order from ubi hq, to make things like they are now...also the tight timeline. ubi needed to release the game for better finance data for the 1st quarter 2010...and still use the bad weather to sell the game better. if they waited til april or may...the sun would have decreased the selling.

this is the way it goes...

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Gunnodayak

Please ...Don't victimize the devs, they are not some kind of martyrs. They simply must take responsability for their products. Unless you are seeing them as fragile as Barbie puppets, or some china. They are supposed to be men. I am still waiting to find out if they really are.

Yes, but remember that the devs are "human beings" with all the frailties therof.

I would be very easy to provoke them into throwing a strop and telling us all to **** off.

Yes, we all have to take criticism, and some people take it better than others.

Yes, they may have to offer an explanation of some sort - IF they are allowed to do so!

As you and elanaiba seem to have a history, it would seem likely that, you, personally, are less likely to get an answer out of him.

You are allowed to have your views, as do I.

Let's agree to disagree on this one, shall we?

I've no desire to get involved a forum politics or have an argument with someone.

Mike.

Originally Posted by MGR1

I would be very easy to provoke them into throwing a strop and telling us all to **** off.



Let's agree to disagree on this one, shall we?

I agree to disagree with you, Mike! Really. And I also agree to agree with you in some respects. But about they telling us to .... They are not making me or anyone else's here a favor. No, they can't do that, because that would mean lower sales, they will affect UBI's image. So, they are not doing that because they don't feel the need to do that, but only because they are not allowed to.

[piri_reis]

Hey Gunnodayak, why do you even come to this forum?

Do we have to see you bitch every day..
And what with the hate towards your own people..
Cut it out, it looks terrible from the outside..
The devs don't need your great criticism, we don't need it.

Originally Posted by piri_reis

Hey Gunnodayak, why do you even come to this forum?

Do we have to see you bitch every day..
And what with the hate towards your own people..
Cut it out, it looks terrible from the outside..
The devs don't need your great criticism, we don't need it.

It seems that you, mate, don't have the required manners to post on this forum. I do, maybe you should learn from me how to speak and how to choose your words.
Maybe some moderator should see these words you've just spoken to me.