How Gracious of them (politics)

[SteamWake]

Our benevolent leaders in washington graciously vote to allow us our constitutanal right...

Originally Posted by Washington post

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the Constitution's "right to keep and bear arms" applies nationwide as a restraint on the ability of the federal, state and local governments to substantially limit its reach.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...802134_pf.html

[Sailor Steve]

Oh, lighten up, man. We won! The court has been avoiding this for decades, and they finally decided for liberty and against government.

I think part of what you're objecting to is the wording, and yet that 'negative' wording is evident in Constitutional Amendments as well.

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

I see this as a very good thing.

[SteamWake]

Well the legislation passed by one vote.. legislation to uphold the constitution by one vote...

But dont worry its just a temporary diversion

[Sailor Steve]

But the Supreme Court is the interpreter of the...

Two hundred years later I still wonder if John Marshall was a true hero or the Devil incarnate.

Whoa yea let's go shoot some Indians!

[August]

The court ruled 5-4 (and I bet I know which ones voted against it too) but this was such a no brainer that it should have been a unanimous decision. Imagine a SC justice saying that the right to free speech does not apply to a state ban on free speech.

[MH]

What do you need guns for in US?
All commies are dead.
I as someone who come from country which is full of guns-you can see someone caring an M16 or pistol everywhere(soldiers,reservist,security people).I think that easiness with which one can acquire gun in US is kind of stupid.
As far as i know there is no good background check or check for legitimacy to own a gun.
Not even talking about forcing some kind of proper training.

It's nice to see such an improvement in Reading Comprehension within the court.

August is again right. It should have been 9 - 0, but they did manage to find the right answer.

Overall, excellent news.

Originally Posted by August

The court ruled 5-4 (and I bet I know which ones voted against it too) but this was such a no brainer that it should have been a unanimous decision. Imagine a SC justice saying that the right to free speech does not apply to a state ban on free speech.

Yes because speaking is the same thing as shooting with a weapon.

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Yes because speaking is the same thing as shooting with a weapon.

Have you ever taken the time to read The US Constitution?

I highly recommend that you do.

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Have you ever taken the time to read The US Constitution?

I highly recommend that you do.

Are you trying to say that speaking and shooting with a weapon isn't the same thing? Sounds like you are an enemy of freedom.

[GoldenRivet]

Speaking Freely and owning a fire arm are about as much the same as driving a car and reading a book...

the thing you fail to see is that the constitution SPECIFICALLY guarantees each and every United States Citizen various rights... among them:

1. The right to free speech

2. the right to keep firearms

3. none of these rights shall be infringed upon by the federal, state or local governments of the United States of America.

its black and white, cut & dry and requires NO intelligence to be able to figure it out.

ANY law which interferes with a citizen's ability to own and operate a private firearm is an infringement of a basic right guaranteed by the constitution.

August is right - should have been 9 - 0 and the fact that it wasnt is cause for concern.

[UnderseaLcpl]

As soon as I saw this on the news I thought "Steamwake has a thread about this, and at least one word in the title is misspelled". At least I was half right

I'm happy about the decision, though it doesn't affect me, personally - none of my weapons are registered anyway, and they never will be

Originally Posted by MH

What do you need guns for in US?

Self-defense, sport, and enforcement of liberty. It may seem stupid to some, but many in the US prefer to take their security into their own hands, rather than entrust it entirely to the state, for the simple reason that we don't trust the efficacy of the police or the competence and benevolence of government.

I will never surrender my weapons. I remember seeing the footage of the nationwide arms confiscation in Britain, where thousands were lined up and forced to deposit their weapons at collection stations for destruction. They looked utterly defeated. A beaten people surrendering their right to self-preservation and self-determination. Americans would not abide that.

[GoldenRivet]

yes... that surrender of firearms was pathetic. it was like an army surrendering to some massive superior force.

I'll shoot it out - to the death if need be - with the authorities before I'll surrender my firearms. period.

Im not bat **** crazy... i just know my rights, and the government does not have the authority to stand between a man and his firearms.

we have guns in America for several reasons

1. to protect us from intrusion and harm

2. for sport (hunting, target shooting etc)

3. to protect us from the Government... ANY government anywhere can become a tyranny - even the U.S. Government. and when the entire system of liberty and justice fails, the pointy end of a firearm is the only thing that can keep an honest man honest.

you have to look at the situation our nation was born into to really understand this fundamental right.

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I will never surrender my weapons. I remember seeing the footage of the nationwide arms confiscation in Britain, where thousands were lined up and forced to deposit their weapons at collection stations for destruction. They looked utterly defeated. A beaten people surrendering their right to self-preservation and self-determination. Americans would not abide that.

Have you ever lived in a country where there was very little or no need to have a weapon for self defence? Do you think living in a country where there isn't as much crime as there is in the States might make you feel differently about weapons?

Personally I think having firearms is a hassle, I have better things to do with money.