SH5 or SHIII + TGW?

HarlockGN · 06-15-10, 11:28 AM

I recently got Silent Hunter 5, and started playing the campaign. I'm impressed by the graphics, but so far by little else.

Admittedly, i'm not that far in (beginning of 1940) but there are some details that I find honestly Jarring. For instance, I'm at war with france, but there isn't a single french vessel on the sea or in french ports (and it's not that said french ports are so far from my usual patrol routes that they can be ovrlooked). And I don't relaly mean that they should let me try and sink the richelieu (oh wait, they should, why not?). The big problem is that it seems to seriously lack in variation.

Now, I actually have SHIII, but I didn't play it much due to lack of time, I never tried it with big mods like TGW.
So I was wondering, which one is more worth my time? SH5 or SHIII+TGW?

Sailor Steve · 06-15-10, 11:44 AM

It depends on what you want from the game. Currently SH5 is only three months old, and still needs alot of love and care. SH3 with any of the big supermods is definitely more complete, and at this stage has more to offer. SH4, like SH5, is a better platform for mods and a better game overall, but not as much attention has been paid to it by modders.

So if you want good AI, a complete war, all the u-boats plus dozens of different ship types and all sorts of cool things to see, you want GWX (TGW no longer exists), WAC, or LSH3.

Another option is SH4 with OM and OMEGU. You don't get as many neat things to look at, but you get better graphics, better crew management, better radio management, plus a very good campain and AI structure.

The possibilities aren't quite endless, but there are many.

HarlockGN · 06-15-10, 12:47 PM

I'm not really intersted in SH4, american subs simply lack the charm of the old reliable U-boots

But yeah, variety and completeness of the campaign is what I'm looking forwards to the most. I might just move back to SHIII until SH5 gets something comparable.

Any mods working on top of GWX and Sim commander that i really shouldn't miss?

RConch · 06-15-10, 01:14 PM

SH 4 has a seperate mission pack for a German U boat in the Pacific.
Or the newest versions on sale are all patched and include the U boat mission\campaign.

Jimbuna · 06-15-10, 04:02 PM

Without meaning any disrespect to any other mods, I'd suggest you try GWX3.0 and if that doesn't give sufficient gameplay satisfaction try another super mod until you find one you like.

Hopefully SH5 will be more up to speed given a bit more time.

Sailor Steve · 06-15-10, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rconch

SH 4 has a seperate mission pack for a German U boat in the Pacific.
Or the newest versions on sale are all patched and include the U boat mission\campaign.

Yep.

That's why I mentioned OM (Operation Monsun) and OMEGU (Operation Monsun Environmental Graphic Upgrade).

I play GWX and OM, and while SH3 has more to offer in the way of cool stuff (I said that already, didn't I?), SH4 U-boats has better crew management, better radio, better charts (KM grids [right down to the 4-digit locations] and latitude/longitude) and a lot of other cool new stuff. And most of its problems have been fixed.

Ducimus · 06-15-10, 06:43 PM

If all your really interested in is a uboat campaign, then id do as Jimbuna suggested and load SH3 with GWX, or any other supermod that happens to grab your attention.

SH5 has a long way to go. I'm sorta playing it now because its new to me still, and some things i really like despite many functional shortcomings.

SH4, really does get a bad and undeserved rap. In reality, its two submarine sims rolled into one, and you have many choices available as to what type of submarine you want to drive and areas of operation. Admittidly though, SH4, is a bit of a mixed bag where functionality is concerned, but many of the shortcomings have been addressed in some manner.

SH5 has in some ways left me yearing for a good type9 uboat game and had me contemplating starting a new supermod for SH4 for JUST that expressed purpose since its totally lacking in SH5, but ahh... i just don't have any wind in my sails. Easier to point to Operation Monson, and Lurkers excellent work, that, and if i really wanted long range patrols, id rather have 6 tubes forward and 4 aft

pickinthebanjo · 06-16-10, 11:18 PM

Yeah apparently SH5 is far from playable. I was thinking of buying it myself but all you need to do is have a read at most of the threads contained inside the SH5 forum and that should change your mind.

With any luck someone will fix that mess

drakkhen20 · 06-22-10, 11:12 AM

i remember play the first silenthunter as a kid on my nintendo back in the day. then i saw sh3 and all that and i had to see how they were. i love it and love it even more with the GWX 3.0 mod. i have sh4 and enjoy playing it with a mod too. now when sh5 came out i had to have it so i purchased it. i love the graphics and enjoy the missions and potrols. the only thing i don't like is the lack of renown and the ability to choose which sub you want, but i still enjoy it. i feel it is in depth alot more than sh3 and thats what throws people off. i still play sh3 more then the other two though. but i would say both because i if i get tired of one of the other i switch back and forth.

Gerald · 06-22-10, 11:54 AM

Vigorous and valuable....

06-25-10, 02:11 AM

I wouldn't touch SH5 with a ten foot pole, and somebody elses computer.

SH3 W or W/O mods.
How, and if, you improve your game is up to you.

GWX comes with one thing that most games don't.
A great manual!
Your free to read it, and make a decision.

melnibonian · 06-25-10, 03:42 AM

GWX all the way

JScones · 06-25-10, 07:24 AM

Well, you've played SH5...so you've had an opportunity to form a "hands on" opinion of it.

You have SH3...so what harm would it be to install it + a supermod of your choice + SH3Cmdr and compare for yourself?

Sailor Steve · 06-25-10, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

Well, you've played SH5...so you've had an opportunity to form a "hands on" opinion of it.

You have SH3...so what harm would it be to install it + a supermod of your choice + SH3Cmdr and compare for yourself?

Best answer of the thread.

Wish I'd thought of it.

melnibonian · 06-25-10, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Best answer of the thread.

Wish I'd thought of it.

Well said

06-15-10, 11:28 AM	#1
HarlockGN Watch Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 30 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	SH5 or SHIII + TGW? I recently got Silent Hunter 5, and started playing the campaign. I'm impressed by the graphics, but so far by little else. Admittedly, i'm not that far in (beginning of 1940) but there are some details that I find honestly Jarring. For instance, I'm at war with france, but there isn't a single french vessel on the sea or in french ports (and it's not that said french ports are so far from my usual patrol routes that they can be ovrlooked). And I don't relaly mean that they should let me try and sink the richelieu (oh wait, they should, why not?). The big problem is that it seems to seriously lack in variation. Now, I actually have SHIII, but I didn't play it much due to lack of time, I never tried it with big mods like TGW. So I was wondering, which one is more worth my time? SH5 or SHIII+TGW?

06-15-10, 11:44 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	It depends on what you want from the game. Currently SH5 is only three months old, and still needs alot of love and care. SH3 with any of the big supermods is definitely more complete, and at this stage has more to offer. SH4, like SH5, is a better platform for mods and a better game overall, but not as much attention has been paid to it by modders. So if you want good AI, a complete war, all the u-boats plus dozens of different ship types and all sorts of cool things to see, you want GWX (TGW no longer exists), WAC, or LSH3. Another option is SH4 with OM and OMEGU. You don't get as many neat things to look at, but you get better graphics, better crew management, better radio management, plus a very good campain and AI structure. The possibilities aren't quite endless, but there are many. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-15-10, 01:14 PM	#4
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	SH 4 has a seperate mission pack for a German U boat in the Pacific. Or the newest versions on sale are all patched and include the U boat mission\campaign. __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

06-15-10, 04:02 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Without meaning any disrespect to any other mods, I'd suggest you try GWX3.0 and if that doesn't give sufficient gameplay satisfaction try another super mod until you find one you like. Hopefully SH5 will be more up to speed given a bit more time. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-16-10, 11:18 PM	#8
pickinthebanjo Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 651 Downloads: 282 Uploads: 0	Yeah apparently SH5 is far from playable. I was thinking of buying it myself but all you need to do is have a read at most of the threads contained inside the SH5 forum and that should change your mind. With any luck someone will fix that mess __________________ Intel Core I7 980x - ASUS Rampage III - EVGA GTX 570 - OCZ Gold 1600Mhz 6Gb - Intel X25-M 80Gb - Coolermaster HAF 932 - Windows 7 Ultimate - CoolerMaster 1200W SH3 Deeper Torpedo Launch / Realistic Crush Depth Mod Here - http://www.filefront.com/user/pickinthebanjo

06-15-10, 12:47 PM	#3
HarlockGN Watch Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 30 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm not really intersted in SH4, american subs simply lack the charm of the old reliable U-boots But yeah, variety and completeness of the campaign is what I'm looking forwards to the most. I might just move back to SHIII until SH5 gets something comparable. Any mods working on top of GWX and Sim commander that i really shouldn't miss?

06-15-10, 06:43 PM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	If all your really interested in is a uboat campaign, then id do as Jimbuna suggested and load SH3 with GWX, or any other supermod that happens to grab your attention. SH5 has a long way to go. I'm sorta playing it now because its new to me still, and some things i really like despite many functional shortcomings. SH4, really does get a bad and undeserved rap. In reality, its two submarine sims rolled into one, and you have many choices available as to what type of submarine you want to drive and areas of operation. Admittidly though, SH4, is a bit of a mixed bag where functionality is concerned, but many of the shortcomings have been addressed in some manner. SH5 has in some ways left me yearing for a good type9 uboat game and had me contemplating starting a new supermod for SH4 for JUST that expressed purpose since its totally lacking in SH5, but ahh... i just don't have any wind in my sails. Easier to point to Operation Monson, and Lurkers excellent work, that, and if i really wanted long range patrols, id rather have 6 tubes forward and 4 aft

06-22-10, 11:12 AM	#9
drakkhen20 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mississippi Posts: 651 Downloads: 363 Uploads: 0	i say both i remember play the first silenthunter as a kid on my nintendo back in the day. then i saw sh3 and all that and i had to see how they were. i love it and love it even more with the GWX 3.0 mod. i have sh4 and enjoy playing it with a mod too. now when sh5 came out i had to have it so i purchased it. i love the graphics and enjoy the missions and potrols. the only thing i don't like is the lack of renown and the ability to choose which sub you want, but i still enjoy it. i feel it is in depth alot more than sh3 and thats what throws people off. i still play sh3 more then the other two though. but i would say both because i if i get tired of one of the other i switch back and forth.

06-22-10, 11:54 AM	#10
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	SH3+GWX! Vigorous and valuable.... __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

06-25-10, 02:11 AM	#11
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I wouldn't touch SH5 with a ten foot pole, and somebody elses computer. SH3 W or W/O mods. How, and if, you improve your game is up to you. GWX comes with one thing that most games don't. A great manual! Your free to read it, and make a decision.

06-25-10, 03:42 AM	#12
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	GWX all the way __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

06-25-10, 07:24 AM	#13
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Well, you've played SH5...so you've had an opportunity to form a "hands on" opinion of it. You have SH3...so what harm would it be to install it + a supermod of your choice + SH3Cmdr and compare for yourself?