A suggestion about Hull integrity

BasilY · 01-15-09, 08:03 PM

I play 100% realsim with GWX2.1, so I feel it isn't right that the HI are available in such acurate numbers. So I always turn it off, (using SH3 commander).

But sometimes you do want to have a ball park idea about how badly you are damaged after an attack. So this is my suggestion on how it should work.

1. You must be on the surface.
2. You can ask your WO to do a Hull check
3. The hull check will tell you if you boat is:

Undamaged: 100%
Minor = HI > 85
Moderate = 85 < HI < 40
Sevear = HI < 40

That way, I can make decisions as to whether to abort a patrol, or whether to attack convoys. (which will require diving deep later).

Like to here what you guys out there might think about this.

Weiss Pinguin · 01-15-09, 08:12 PM

Is this possible? I'd love to have a compromise between our current options. (Going blind or having a damage meter)

Maybe you could also have the Chief Engineer do the same, but with far less accuracy? (Say 25% compared to the WO assessment) Kind of like a hasty inspection of the damage to the inner hull in order to decide whether a dive to 100 meters will kill you.

Faamecanic · 01-15-09, 09:04 PM

Great idea... I have had more than one argument that while seeing a hull integrity % number isnt realistic, not being able to inspect your hull and assess damage isnt either.

Good compromise.

meduza · 01-16-09, 07:25 AM

Good idea. Maybe it would be possible to implement it.

Having an exact percentage is way too much information, but not having a clue about your hull status (except for shattered glass on dials) is just as bad.

Jimbuna · 01-16-09, 08:12 AM

Bdu have noted your collective concerns....therefore all new construction as of now will have a vital upgrade option.

papa_smurf · 01-16-09, 08:48 AM

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Bdu have noted your collective concerns....therefore all new construction as of now will have a vital upgrade option.

Could this be a GWX 3.0 upgrade........:hmm:

Laufen zum Ziel · 01-16-09, 11:42 AM

Fantastic Idea.....

Jimbuna · 01-16-09, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf

Quote:

Bdu have noted your collective concerns....therefore all new construction as of now will have a vital upgrade option.

Could this be a GWX 3.0 upgrade........:hmm:

Upgrade Mark II

BasilY · 02-24-09, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by papa_smurf

Quote:

Bdu have noted your collective concerns....therefore all new construction as of now will have a vital upgrade option.

Could this be a GWX 3.0 upgrade........:hmm:

Upgrade Mark II

O, wise genie, where can I get this magic fix? Which file is it? is it compatible with GWX3.0?

Jimbuna · 02-25-09, 07:45 AM

I'm afraid no such upgrade/file exists at the present. No definitive decision has yet been made as to any future upgrades for GWX3.0.

I'd place it in the 'unlikely column' due to the fact work is ongoing with GWX4.

Oneshot/Onekill · 02-26-09, 05:34 PM

I could be wrong about this, lord knows thats happened maybe once or twice, but i think that the LRT mod addresses this issue with the hull% somewhat. I know its exactly what you guys are talking about, but it is a decent compromise.

Oneshot/Onekill · 02-26-09, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oneshot/Onekill

I could be wrong about this, lord knows thats happened maybe once or twice, but i think that the LRT mod addresses this issue with the hull% somewhat. I know its exactly what you guys are talking about, but it is a decent compromise.

Ooops not exactly i mean

Forensicman101 · 06-19-10, 02:42 PM

What is this LRT Mod? Is there some way that I can get hull integrity displayed when using GWX3? I've been unable to get SH3 commander running, so am having to resort to tweaking GWX3 files.

I agree that having absolutely no idea as to how your hull is shaping up is worse than having a % figure.

h.sie · 06-19-10, 03:48 PM

Maybe you like this one:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=159866

01-15-09, 08:03 PM	#1
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	A suggestion about Hull integrity I play 100% realsim with GWX2.1, so I feel it isn't right that the HI are available in such acurate numbers. So I always turn it off, (using SH3 commander). But sometimes you do want to have a ball park idea about how badly you are damaged after an attack. So this is my suggestion on how it should work. 1. You must be on the surface. 2. You can ask your WO to do a Hull check 3. The hull check will tell you if you boat is: Undamaged: 100% Minor = HI > 85 Moderate = 85 < HI < 40 Sevear = HI < 40 That way, I can make decisions as to whether to abort a patrol, or whether to attack convoys. (which will require diving deep later). Like to here what you guys out there might think about this.

01-15-09, 08:12 PM	#2
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Is this possible? I'd love to have a compromise between our current options. (Going blind or having a damage meter) Maybe you could also have the Chief Engineer do the same, but with far less accuracy? (Say 25% compared to the WO assessment) Kind of like a hasty inspection of the damage to the inner hull in order to decide whether a dive to 100 meters will kill you. __________________

01-16-09, 07:25 AM	#4
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Good idea. Maybe it would be possible to implement it. Having an exact percentage is way too much information, but not having a clue about your hull status (except for shattered glass on dials) is just as bad. __________________

01-16-09, 08:12 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Bdu have noted your collective concerns....therefore all new construction as of now will have a vital upgrade option. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-16-09, 11:42 AM	#7
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	Fantastic Idea..... __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

01-15-09, 09:04 PM	#3
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Great idea... I have had more than one argument that while seeing a hull integrity % number isnt realistic, not being able to inspect your hull and assess damage isnt either. Good compromise.

02-25-09, 07:45 AM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm afraid no such upgrade/file exists at the present. No definitive decision has yet been made as to any future upgrades for GWX3.0. I'd place it in the 'unlikely column' due to the fact work is ongoing with GWX4. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-26-09, 05:34 PM	#11
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I could be wrong about this, lord knows thats happened maybe once or twice, but i think that the LRT mod addresses this issue with the hull% somewhat. I know its exactly what you guys are talking about, but it is a decent compromise.

06-19-10, 02:42 PM	#13
Forensicman101 Gunner Join Date: May 2010 Location: Abercarn, South Wales, UK Posts: 91 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Hull Integrity in GWX please What is this LRT Mod? Is there some way that I can get hull integrity displayed when using GWX3? I've been unable to get SH3 commander running, so am having to resort to tweaking GWX3 files. I agree that having absolutely no idea as to how your hull is shaping up is worse than having a % figure.

06-19-10, 03:48 PM	#14
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Maybe you like this one: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=159866 __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie