Historic Values

PappyCain · 06-06-10, 12:00 PM

I am planning to build a website for advanced simulation* similar to an immersion website I created for advanced combat flying and which ran for 12 years. We had a small cadre of pilots and flew many custom missions. Great fun and very immersive.

For now I started a Group or Club to help identify like minded. The site I will build and the core execution will not cross thread the good work done by others. Perhaps it will just be another venue.

Folks interested in playing with legitimate technology limitations, who respect and understand the historic time line, who possess a healthy curiosity of naval and U-boat history, and who respect the era this simulation represents may like a few test patrols and era immersion.

* Advanced simulation with education tweaks one would learn at a Maritime Academy. Experts welcomed.

Sailor Steve · 06-06-10, 12:09 PM

Cool! I'm in. Have you checked out Wolves At War? I've never actually played, but they act as BdU and assign areas and try to follow the war. Every kaleun registers under an historic name or at least a German-sounding one. Now that I'm settled I'm thinking of joining them next time around.

nemchenk · 06-06-10, 12:41 PM

Sign me up, PappyCain!

PappyCain · 06-06-10, 12:47 PM

What I would like is to patrol and execute with like minded. I would also like to raise the bar so new folks can learn to appreciate rewards in playing to historic values. Many folks can get tremendous kick of low but realistic tonnage 'earned', enjoy white knuckle escapades and come home alive with their boat intact and with a seasoned crew ... if encouraged to execute to historic values, we all win. Our rules will be stringent but very do-able. I want people to have a great experience and live to tell their tale.

The site will be driven by current events, real newspaper accounts and family life ... you will feel in the 'moment'.

RConch · 06-06-10, 01:07 PM

Interesting, however I am still on dial up.

If I live long enough to get broadband or cable, hope you are still running.
Good luck!

PappyCain · 06-06-10, 01:47 PM

You will be able to patrol offline on the honor system.

Kapt Z · 06-06-10, 08:26 PM

Sounds interesting.....

ryanglavin · 06-06-10, 09:06 PM

Does sound interesting pappy.. I'll wait for more information to decide.

Jimbuna · 06-07-10, 07:17 AM

I may well be interested...keep us informed

unterseemann · 06-07-10, 09:45 AM

I'm with you...Awaiting further informations but i like the idea

PappyCain · 06-09-10, 07:40 AM

Sorry. Canceling the project.

Kapt Z · 06-09-10, 11:24 AM

Looks good so far.

Only question is the food stores limit for patrols. I think this is a great idea, but wonder if 40 days is too short. Perhaps not for a type II or VII, but type IXs went on some godawful long patrols. Will the built in extended range of that type be taken into consideration?

Laufen zum Ziel · 06-10-10, 06:26 PM

PappyCain,

When I sent you a PM telling you I agreed with your historic sims posting I also invited you to visit the Enigma Flotilla. You must have liked our Flotilla to copy our idea.

What a suprise I got when I read your new posting where you are starting your own web site. What you plan to do copies Flotilla Enigma
program almost to the letter.

Do you really think the forum can accomodate two twins?

BDU (LzZ)

PappyCain · 06-10-10, 08:53 PM

"What you plan to do copies Flotilla Enigma program almost to the letter."

I am sorry but I have not visited your website (yet) since getting your PM today. As a matter of fact I have not visited anyone's yet.

I ran an advanced flight combat sim (immersion) for years and made over a hundred custom designed missions and cinemas. I still have the website and the forums with maybe 160 members in the past who flew them. I bet I put in thousands of man-hours over the 2 decades. I am an immersion buff, and I have 3 high end graphic immersion sites in my portfolio. Yep, since the late 1990s - long before SH3. (We flew USAAF Jugs and P51s against Bf 109 and Me 190 in the Ardennes in MP and single player). I made WWII immersion websites and club programs for Fighter Ace, Jane's WW2 Fighters, Battle of Britain and am working on one for WWI Rise of Flight. All dedicated to advanced combat skills and historic values. My sub site was to be along the lines of the advanced sim and immersion styles I have already created above with all their bells and whistles.

I am not terribly interested in any market share here, it's a hobby and my real life global subsea commercial work keeps me busy in my semi-retirement.

So best wishes and continued success with whatever it is you are doing!

firefighter26 · 06-10-10, 09:08 PM

Huh, I never considered that they might conflict.... hopefully this doesn't create a problem for anyone (still undecided what I am going to do....)

06-06-10, 12:00 PM	#1
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Historic Values I am planning to build a website for advanced simulation* similar to an immersion website I created for advanced combat flying and which ran for 12 years. We had a small cadre of pilots and flew many custom missions. Great fun and very immersive. For now I started a Group or Club to help identify like minded. The site I will build and the core execution will not cross thread the good work done by others. Perhaps it will just be another venue. Folks interested in playing with legitimate technology limitations, who respect and understand the historic time line, who possess a healthy curiosity of naval and U-boat history, and who respect the era this simulation represents may like a few test patrols and era immersion. * Advanced simulation with education tweaks one would learn at a Maritime Academy. Experts welcomed. __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

06-06-10, 12:09 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Cool! I'm in. Have you checked out Wolves At War? I've never actually played, but they act as BdU and assign areas and try to follow the war. Every kaleun registers under an historic name or at least a German-sounding one. Now that I'm settled I'm thinking of joining them next time around. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-06-10, 12:47 PM	#4
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What I would like is to patrol and execute with like minded. I would also like to raise the bar so new folks can learn to appreciate rewards in playing to historic values. Many folks can get tremendous kick of low but realistic tonnage 'earned', enjoy white knuckle escapades and come home alive with their boat intact and with a seasoned crew ... if encouraged to execute to historic values, we all win. Our rules will be stringent but very do-able. I want people to have a great experience and live to tell their tale. The site will be driven by current events, real newspaper accounts and family life ... you will feel in the 'moment'. __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

06-06-10, 01:07 PM	#5
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	Interesting, however I am still on dial up. If I live long enough to get broadband or cable, hope you are still running. Good luck! __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

06-06-10, 01:47 PM	#6
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You will be able to patrol offline on the honor system. __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

06-06-10, 12:41 PM	#3
nemchenk Bosun Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 69 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Sign me up, PappyCain!

06-06-10, 08:26 PM	#7
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	Sounds interesting..... __________________ ...I fought in many guises, many names, but always me. Patton

06-06-10, 09:06 PM	#8
ryanglavin Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Evading that Hunter/Killer Group on my Tail Posts: 584 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Does sound interesting pappy.. I'll wait for more information to decide. __________________

06-07-10, 07:17 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I may well be interested...keep us informed __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-07-10, 09:45 AM	#10
unterseemann Soundman Join Date: May 2005 Location: lyon, france Posts: 144 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	I'm with you...Awaiting further informations but i like the idea __________________

06-09-10, 07:40 AM	#11
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Sorry. Canceling the project. __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html Last edited by PappyCain; 06-10-10 at 09:21 PM.

06-09-10, 11:24 AM	#12
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	Looks good so far. Only question is the food stores limit for patrols. I think this is a great idea, but wonder if 40 days is too short. Perhaps not for a type II or VII, but type IXs went on some godawful long patrols. Will the built in extended range of that type be taken into consideration? __________________ ...I fought in many guises, many names, but always me. Patton

06-10-10, 06:26 PM	#13
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	What a Suprise PappyCain, When I sent you a PM telling you I agreed with your historic sims posting I also invited you to visit the Enigma Flotilla. You must have liked our Flotilla to copy our idea. What a suprise I got when I read your new posting where you are starting your own web site. What you plan to do copies Flotilla Enigma program almost to the letter. Do you really think the forum can accomodate two twins? BDU (LzZ) __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

06-10-10, 08:53 PM	#14
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"What you plan to do copies Flotilla Enigma program almost to the letter." I am sorry but I have not visited your website (yet) since getting your PM today. As a matter of fact I have not visited anyone's yet. I ran an advanced flight combat sim (immersion) for years and made over a hundred custom designed missions and cinemas. I still have the website and the forums with maybe 160 members in the past who flew them. I bet I put in thousands of man-hours over the 2 decades. I am an immersion buff, and I have 3 high end graphic immersion sites in my portfolio. Yep, since the late 1990s - long before SH3. (We flew USAAF Jugs and P51s against Bf 109 and Me 190 in the Ardennes in MP and single player). I made WWII immersion websites and club programs for Fighter Ace, Jane's WW2 Fighters, Battle of Britain and am working on one for WWI Rise of Flight. All dedicated to advanced combat skills and historic values. My sub site was to be along the lines of the advanced sim and immersion styles I have already created above with all their bells and whistles. I am not terribly interested in any market share here, it's a hobby and my real life global subsea commercial work keeps me busy in my semi-retirement. So best wishes and continued success with whatever it is you are doing! __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html Last edited by PappyCain; 06-10-10 at 10:56 PM.

06-10-10, 09:08 PM	#15
firefighter26 Watch Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Posts: 17 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Huh, I never considered that they might conflict.... hopefully this doesn't create a problem for anyone (still undecided what I am going to do....)