What to change so that ships land on the bottom

shamuboy1 · 06-14-10, 08:12 PM

What things should you change in the SH5 files so that the Sunken ships actually land on the bottom of the ocean. It would really be helpful if someone could tell me! Thanks!

kylania · 06-14-10, 08:26 PM

They do, for a few moments at least. Then they disappear because keeping destroyed assets around in a computer game is never a good idea.

The General · 06-15-10, 06:11 AM

Yeah, but in SH3 wrecks sat on the bottom and it worked ok. Besides, in real life, when you were in shallow water, crashing into a wreck was a very real possibility for a Submarine and I would argue that it adds tremendously to the atmosphere to hear the sunken vessel breaking-up on Sonar or even through the hull, if you were close enough. Although based on the same platform, SH5 seems to have taken a step backwards from SH3 & 4 in some ways.

JU_88 · 06-15-10, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shamuboy1

What things should you change in the SH5 files so that the Sunken ships actually land on the bottom of the ocean. It would really be helpful if someone could tell me! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by The General

Yeah, but in SH3 wrecks sat on the bottom and it worked ok. Besides, in real life, when you were in shallow water, crashing into a wreck was a very real possibility for a Submarine and I would argue that it adds tremendously to the atmosphere to hear the sunken vessel breaking-up on Sonar or even through the hull, if you were close enough. Although based on the same platform, SH5 seems to have taken a step backwards from SH3 & 4 in some ways.

Yeah but you guys are not taking everything in to account.
In Sh3 the ocean floor was flat so the colision model was a no brainer, in SHV the terrain is uneven / mountainous so its not really possible to perfect it, when you consider that you have the entire world to model.

Would either of you like to build colision boxes for every single inch of uneven sea bed covering the entire world?

Even if you did, i doubt it is technically possible.
You gotta be realistic.

Ducimus · 06-15-10, 03:10 PM

Other day i noticed a GR2 file that seems to contain the objects that are being tiled onto the ocean floor. I wonder if offsetting the vertical axis of those objects (Z i think) so that they sit higher or lower to the collision surface on the ocean floor would work?

wamphyri · 06-15-10, 03:17 PM

The issue is that each ship will disappear after a predetermined about of time. regardless if it's hit the bottom or not. So even if we manage to get the wrecks to stay on the bottom they will just disappear. and I believe that is hard coded.

Ducimus · 06-15-10, 04:04 PM

Garbage collection. Tis a good thing.

06-14-10, 08:12 PM	#1
shamuboy1 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	What to change so that ships land on the bottom What things should you change in the SH5 files so that the Sunken ships actually land on the bottom of the ocean. It would really be helpful if someone could tell me! Thanks!

06-14-10, 08:26 PM	#2
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	They do, for a few moments at least. Then they disappear because keeping destroyed assets around in a computer game is never a good idea. __________________

06-15-10, 06:11 AM	#3
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Yeah, but in SH3 wrecks sat on the bottom and it worked ok. Besides, in real life, when you were in shallow water, crashing into a wreck was a very real possibility for a Submarine and I would argue that it adds tremendously to the atmosphere to hear the sunken vessel breaking-up on Sonar or even through the hull, if you were close enough. Although based on the same platform, SH5 seems to have taken a step backwards from SH3 & 4 in some ways. __________________ *THE GENERAL*

06-15-10, 03:10 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Other day i noticed a GR2 file that seems to contain the objects that are being tiled onto the ocean floor. I wonder if offsetting the vertical axis of those objects (Z i think) so that they sit higher or lower to the collision surface on the ocean floor would work?

06-15-10, 03:17 PM	#6
wamphyri Lieutenant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 260 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	The issue is that each ship will disappear after a predetermined about of time. regardless if it's hit the bottom or not. So even if we manage to get the wrecks to stay on the bottom they will just disappear. and I believe that is hard coded.

06-15-10, 04:04 PM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Garbage collection. Tis a good thing.