Perverting of Europe continues

[Skybird]

A father and a mother form a couple called parents, right?

Well, you might be surprised to learn that according to a growing influential thinking (or absence of such) in Europe, it is sexist discrimination. In fact children are the product of a neuter entitity called "Elter" (without "n" at the end). Parents (plural) translates into "Eltern" (plural) in German, there is no singular form of the word. This word now gets deleted in official office language, and replaced with a less discriminatory, sexually neutral term.

(German)
http://www.medrum.de/?q=content/mutt...-elter-ersetzt

Originally Posted by Translation

Bern, Switzerland, gets serious in abandoning discrimination

According to a new guideline for the officially binding use of language in Switzerland, the use of the term father and mother falls under description of discriminating terms. According to it, children do not have a father and a mother anymore, but a neuter as cause for their existence, named "das Elter (grammar: neutral form).

Instead of "father" or "mother" it should be written "der Elternteil" (one parent) or "das Elter" (instead of "Eltern/parents"). The guideline is binding for official publications, says Isabel Kamber, deputy chief of the Central Language Service, Section German, of the Federal Office of the Chancellor of Switzerland, reports the Swiss newspaper BLICK.

With this the politically responsible in Bern follow the draft proposal 12267 in the committe for the equality of chances between females and males (of the EU council), which is to fight in nations against terms like the concept of "mother" in order to acchieve gender-equality.

Such a lingustic distortion would also ease the gaining of parenthood by homosexual couples. A child whose social parents would be two lesbian women, then would not have a mother and a stepmother, but two "Elter": Elter 1 and Elter 2. Consequently, grandmother and grandfather should be abandoned as well. It would be grand-elter 1 and grandelter 2, or better: grand-elter 1.1 and grandelter 1.2 and grandelter 2.1 and grandelter 2.2. that also would be a solution friendly towards easier digitisation, which could be easily and flexibly adopted to patchworks.

More on it: "fight against the term "mother" as a sexist stereotype" (no kidding)

(German)
http://www.medrum.de/?q=content/kamp...chem-stereotyp

The european council discusses a draft proposal , that amongst others things recommends to battle against the use of the term "mother", because it would prevent gender-equality.

The gender-ideology aims at the dissolving of social/communal structures and role types. In the media women would be displayed too much as mothers and wifes. with the draft proposal 12267 in the commission for euqlaity between females and males the european council therefore wants to fight against the use of terms like "mother". "Mother", they claim, is a sexist stereotype that would push women into a traditional role. nations now should be called to fight against such sexist stereotypes in general. The media should play an important role here. They should abandon the use of sexist stereotypes. For this, a whole set of programs is planned, like education porgrams for people working in the media world, and the creation of expert offices that shoudl advise the media.

For this goal, especially the European Women's Lobby EWL, an NGO, is fighting.

Reporter for the proposal draft is Doris Stump from Switzerland.

The document is included in the appendix (download as pdf).

What a madness. This is not harmless, because it is about forming and influencing the terms in which people think - or cannot think anymore. No surprise that once again the Eu is behind it. The gender-streamlining in our modern society is a creeping disease of thought that is haunting us since longer now, but especially the educational sector and the issue of the status of homosexual relations is bitterly fought over. and they will not stop it before they have successfully destroyed everything.

Another example: a row in Hamburg over claimed politically incorrect schoolbooks. I had seen it on TV in Spiegel TV, as that article claims, but the source where the above was taken from refers to just that.

(German)
http://www.medrum.de/?q=content/gender-aufruhr-hamburg

Scaring it is how much all this reminds of Newspeak in George Orwell's 1984.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

(...)
The basic idea behind Newspeak is to remove all shades of meaning from language, leaving simple dichotomies (pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness, goodthink and crimethink) which reinforce the total dominance of the State.
(...)
To control thought

“ By 2050—earlier, probably—all real knowledge of Oldspeak will have disappeared. The whole literature of the past will have been destroyed. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Byron—they'll exist only in Newspeak versions, not merely changed into something different, but actually contradictory of what they used to be. Even the literature of the Party will change. Even the slogans will change. How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedom has been abolished? The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.”

The underlying theory of Newspeak is that if something can't be said, then it is much more difficult to think it. (See Sapir–Whorf hypothesis.) There is substantial argument in favour of this notion, in that most humans think by carrying on a dialogue in their heads. They tend to subvocalize their thoughts as they form them and manipulate them; most thought is actually a dialogue with oneself.

What surprises me a bit is that it is the conservative Swiss forming the spearhead here. Or is it no surprise at all - and left-leaning idiots form such idiotic policies in an attempt to enforce the Swiss becoming a bit less "typically Swiss"? And then maybe it is no surprise that the Swiss somtimes strike back, like in that public vote banning the building of more mosques. The same group, btw, in these days is setting up another vote on a proposal that all foreign emigrants who break the law and become criminal and/or social parasites, will be sent back to their countries of origin. The - surprise-surprise - left and the socialists tried to prevent this votum by wanting to simply forbid Swiss people to vote. It seems they see some of their election clients going missing in the next national polls, this is the only argument that could come to my mind against this very reasonable proposal to throw out migrants not playing by the rules. I mean when I run a party and somebody misbehaves or uses the opportunity to steal in my house, I kick him out, too. what is there that could be said against doing so? Nothing!

[Skybird]

Oh my - the Brits are at it, too:

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jan/08013008.html

LONDON, January 30, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Government guidelines for training school officials to be more sensitive to homosexuality, instruct teachers not to use the terms "mum and dad" when referring to students' parents, and to treat "even casual" use of terms like "gay" as equal to racism.

The guideance was commissioned by the Labour government directly from the homosexual lobby group Stonewall. The document was launched today at a Stonewall conference by Schools Secretary Ed Balls.

Ed Balls said, "Homophobic insults should be viewed as seriously as racism."
"Even casual use of homophobic language in schools can create an atmosphere that isolates young people and can be the forerunner of more serious forms of bullying."

The guidelines say that the word "parents" must replace "mum and dad", and that teachers should educate pupils about civil partnerships and gay adoption rights.

In Britain's current political climate, even young children have been subject to police interventions on accusations of making "racist" or "homophobic" comments. In October 2006, a 14-year-old school girl was arrested by police and detained in a cell for three hours after she asked to be moved into a group of students who spoke English in class. Stott was denounced to police for "racism" by her teachers. In April 2007, a ten-year-old boy was questioned after the boy sent an email calling another boy "gay".

In the "Frequently Asked Questions" section of the guidelines, in answer to the question, "We have to respect cultural and religious differences. Does this mean pupils can be homophobic?" the guidelines specifically state that those with religious views regarded by the homosexual movement as "intolerant" must be silent. "A person can hold whatever views they want but expressing views that denigrate others is unacceptable."

For Stonewall, youth and sexual innocence is no reason for an exemption. To the objection that primary school students are too young to understand issues of homosexuality, the guidelines respond, "Primary-school pupils may be too young to understand their own sexual orientation but it is likely that some primary-school pupils will know someone who is gay."

"Homophobic language is used in primary schools without the pupils necessarily realising what it is that they are saying. Primary schools should respond to homophobic bullying in an age-appropriate way whilst demonstrating that it is not acceptable in school."

For parents who object to their children being exposed to instruction on homosexuality, the guidelines say, "Regardless of their views on gay people or sexual orientation, parents and carers have to understand that schools have a responsibility to keep pupils safe."

Stonewall, perhaps the most successful homosexual activist organization in the world, has been accepted by the Labour government, first under Tony Blair and now by Gordon Brown's leadership, as the leading voice on all issues regarding homosexuality. The guidelines take this a step further in actually allowing the lobby group to author a government document.

Under Tony Blair's "New Labour" government, Section 28 - the law which banned the promotion of homosexuality in schools, was repealed. Since then, homosexual activists have used their influence in Parliament to implement a full roster of training for both teachers and students in normalizing homosexuality.

We need a new great war in Europe, to root out what has become so degenerated and rotten in western, endlessly relativising thinking, a real war that kills and destroys and puts everybody at direct, immediate risk.

Just to make people come back to their senses that have gone spinning off into Nirvana while being too bored.

On the other hand, our modern degeneration may be a direct late consequence of WWII, so...

Maybe getting an external robot dictatorship on Earth would not be such a bad thing at all...

Welcome to the Left Wing Extremists new program:
Social Idoctrination / Mind Control / Behavior Modification 102.
How to totaly destroy a society, just like Rome and Athens was, from the inside out.

I still use the "old" (real) wordbook.
Gay still means happy.
Queer still means odd / strange / abnormal.
Anybody doesn't like it, tuff.

These people need to be brought down, yesterday.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Welcome to the Left Wing Extremists new program:
Social Idoctrination / Mind Control / Behavior Modification 102.
How to totaly destroy a society, just like Rome and Athens was, from the inside out.

I still use the "old" (real) wordbook.
Gay still means happy.
Queer still means odd / strange / abnormal.
Anybody doesn't like it, tuff.

These people need to be brought down, yesterday.

Agreed

[Skybird]

I had messed up two of the three links to the German original sources. Corrected.

had messed up two of the three links to the German original sources. Corrected.

You mean you linked to fruitcake sites that you found linked on fruitcake sites.
Come on Sky, fessup put up the original hate site you found the articles linked on, because lets face it you ain't exactly going to be frequenting those sites for your views, if anything you would be doing the opposite as in general they are diametyricly opposed to yourself and something you emphaticly reject on all counts......apart from on one issue.
You make it so easy

Regarding the full thread, agreed. Saw the riot police carrying out these directives rather forcefully the other day.

Don't be so cruel, at least give him the chance to explain the stature of any draft proposals that carry no weight even if they are accepted in their draft form without revision.

[DarkFish]

For this goal, especially the European Women's Lobby EWL, an NGO, is fighting.

European WOMEN's Lobby? WOMEN?!
Did it never even cross their minds that "women" is a discriminatory term?!

[L.T]

IM A DAD, AND DAMN PROUD OF IT!!! MY KIDS ALSO HAVE A MOM!! If anyone say that im not a dad but a parrent i woop there buts....

im a dad and a parrent......G`dammit...next thing will be that im not a person im a human....

in a 100 years my bloodline is Unit XX123XX123XX Human earth inhabitant..

Geeeez...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by L.T

IM A DAD, AND DAMN PROUD OF IT!!! MY KIDS ALSO HAVE A MOM!! If anyone say that im not a dad but a parrent i woop there buts....

im a dad and a parrent......G`dammit...next thing will be that im not a person im a human....

in a 100 years my bloodline is Unit XX123XX123XX Human earth inhabitant..

Geeeez...

Bloodline? No. You are ideologic property.

Also, by labelling ylurself "human", you imply that there also is something "non-human", which is a discrimination in itself. You are not human, therefore - you are a nothing. A hypothetical construct serving in the role of ideologic property, so to speak.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Bloodline? No. You are ideologic property.

Also, by labelling ylurself "human", you imply that there also is something "non-human", which is a discrimination in itself. You are not human, therefore - you are a nothing. A hypothetical construct serving in the role of ideologic property, so to speak.

Of course "property" implies that you belong to someone or something else, so you already don't have free will. How do we end this tyrrany? Or can we even conciev of it?

On the other hand, since electrons are impulses without mass, we don't really even exist. Somehow this all makes sense.

Great links.
Leaving aside the factual innacuracies in skybirds rant, it does demonstrate that he will look in the strangest places to find views that match his own.
I do like the way the Canadian anti-abortionists included two classic Daily Mail fabrications in their article.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Skybird

We need a new great war in Europe, to root out what has become so degenerated and rotten in western, endlessly relativising thinking, a real war that kills and destroys and puts everybody at direct, immediate risk.

now now Skybird, isnt that the same thing Herr Adolf and his cronies said in the 30's?

look how well that turned out...

give me a degenerate Europe any day....

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

now now Skybird, isnt that the same thing Herr Adolf and his cronies said in the 30's?

look how well that turned out...

give me a degenerate Europe any day....

So the leftwing media (as an example) is a race now ....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuu. I assume if you want something you will also pay the price for it. After the payday come back and try to repeat what you sad (if you will be able to do so). Have a nice day

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

now now Skybird, isnt that the same thing Herr Adolf and his cronies said in the 30's?

It seems you have gotten the hidden irony. Political correctness first leads to extremes that lead it ad absurdum, and then to even worse situations where a cleanup seems to be the only thing that can get rid of the whole mess again. that way it acchieves what it claims to prevent: chaos.

Either these self-destroying "trends" get broken, or their ideologic originators succeed. I absolutely detest the perspective of the latter, and I have no trust anymore to break up the many degenerations of our culture. If they want to bring this culture down, then not without a fight, I say, no matter whether it is islam or left ideology. Let'S chase away both - for the sake of those coming after us.

there is a reason why revolutions mostly were revolutions indeed. It was because negotiations or reforming attempts did not work.

And as they say: an external enemy unites us, immediate needs and suffering washes illusions out of our heads. When it is only about mere physical survival anymore , the mind does not care much for stupid ideologies disconnected from reality anymore, but tries to figure how to survive the next day.

Anyway, what`s your main point? Want to prove me wrong or say that my opinion is harsh?

I think he is saying that your opinion is as old as the hills and is recycled in every generation in a reactionary manner which kinda makes it in essence a meaningless opinion.