Lost among the GUIs

JMV · 04-11-10, 12:52 PM

Ok, I'm at a complete loss with all those GUI Modes

( I'm probably not the only one though ), on top of it, I haven't visited the forum for a while.

Could Somebody clarify what are the differences ? ( the main GUIs and the variants )
Are some obsolete ? What are the most up to date ?
Those below are all the GUIs mentionned through the Forum that I could find.

1- MaGui 3.1
2- Hitman GUI 1.0 for NYGM3 and GWX3
3- Rafael DSK GUI
4- OLC Gui 1.2.7
5- OLC 'Gold' MkIId
6- MkIIc
7- 6 Dials Simfeeling
8- ACM Reloaded for OLC 'Gold' MkII
9- AnotherCombiMod GUI v1.1.0 (ACM)
10- OLC 'Gold' MkIIc
11- OLC GUI
12- U-jagd
13- OLC 'Gold' MkII
14- WAC GUI look for GWX 3.0
15- ACM-GUI Reloaded - h.sie's edition
16- New GUI with U-Jagd tools
17- OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final
18- OLC GUI Special
19- OLCE2
20- LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special

Was there a thread that tell it all already ?
Sorry, I know it's quite a bit of work to explain...

Thanks all.

JMV

sharkbit · 04-11-10, 02:32 PM

So many choices, so little time to play-
There are a lot of GUI's to choose from and it is difficult to choose. It seems to me that the best thing to do is look at the various threads, download them, and try each one out.
I've tried it that way with a few on your list and it seems that they all have plusses and minuses. But everyone will look for something different. What one person likes in one of them, someone else may not.
I suppose one could find one they really like and mod it to there personal tastes. I'm definitely not to that point, although I've done some very minor tweeks here and there.

I'm currently using hsie's ACM Reloaded. I've also used ACM v1.1. I like both.
I'm seriously considering checking out MaGUI 3.1 and Hitman gui 1.0 for gwx.

I've checked out OLC Gold, but where I'm at with my manual targeting, it is a little too much right now. Maybe in the future I'll give that another shot.

Sorry, I can't be much help beyond that.

comet61 · 04-11-10, 02:41 PM

I use Magui 3.1 exclusivly. OLC and Magui are very closely related. Raphaels mods works very well with GWX3 on their own. It really depends on ones preference. But I agree on one suggestion is to try them all. You might find what you like most and use. Like me, Magui is pretty much all I need...not to mention ENV mods like MEP or SH5 Water mods that can be added later. But that's another topic.

brett25 · 04-11-10, 05:00 PM

maybe a GUI sticky?

Laufen zum Ziel · 04-11-10, 06:05 PM

Poll Link.....

http://hstrial-enigma1.intuitwebsite...ling-Site.html

Pisces · 04-11-10, 06:12 PM

Most of those are just updates of the other.

Like the latest version of OLC 'Gold' MkIIa,b,c,d.
Which follows after OLC Gui Special,
Which came after OLC Gui 1.27,
Which came after OLC Gui, where it all got started...
not really, it was born at roughly the same time as the Ujagd mod, but that was made by Joegrundman, and is really a different mod using similar functionality in the attackdisk and attackperiscope.

OLCE2 is more of an environment mod that had the 'gui special' come along with it because of file dependancies. The GUI special was optional though, and could be replaced with the GUI 1.27. The Gold MkII versions are a further update on the environment changes, again with his Gui part of it. The major change in the Gui would be between OLC Gui 1.27 and the Gui Special. Since the latter has only one zoom level in the periscope and didn't require modications to the recognition manual files (because of doubled mast heights).

Most of the other GUIs you mentioned have their own descriptive thread to explain what they do. But most of OLCs threads may be hard to find since they are hidden quite deep in the dungeons of subsim.com. But you'll notice many took inspiration from his mods by how often his name (OLC) is linked to it.

Pisces · 04-11-10, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laufen zum Ziel

Poll Link.....

http://hstrial-enigma1.intuitwebsite...ling-Site.html

Nice idea. But I cannot choose 90-100% realism AND SH3-GWX.

Laufen zum Ziel · 04-12-10, 11:59 AM

JMV's GUI Thread
They are all good but I prefer MaGui 3.1(2) 33%
Hitman GUI 1.0 for NYGM3 and GWX3(2) 33%
Rafael DSK GUI(0)
OLC Gui 1.2.7(0)
OLC 'Gold' MkIId(0)
MkIIc(0)
6 Dials Simfeeling(0)
ACM Reloaded for OLC 'Gold' MkII(0)
AnotherCombiMod GUI v1.1.0 (ACM)(0)
OLC 'Gold' MkIIc(0)
OLC GUI(0)
U-jagd(0)
OLC 'Gold' MkII(0)
WAC GUI look for GWX 3.0(0)
ACM-GUI Reloaded - h.sie's edition(2) 33%
New GUI with U-Jagd tools(0)
OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final(0)
OLC GUI Special(0)
OLCE2(0)
LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special(0)

6 total votes since 04/11/10

JMV · 04-13-10, 07:12 AM

Thank you all for your answers.
A poll was a good idea, but a "sticky" would be better.
A kind of chart if you prefer, decribing the main ones, what they do, what they affect, if they come as replacement of previous ones, as well as the derived ones what they do, with dates of [REL], with perhaps 2 or 3 miniature pictures.
In this way I think everybody would know without having to read long pages of description in an attempt to find what they want.
JMV

KL-alfman · 04-13-10, 07:56 AM

when through to the end of war, I will start a new career using Hitman's new GUI, it's just plain and beautiful.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167126

Laufen zum Ziel · 04-13-10, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KL-alfman

when through to the end of war, I will start a new career using Hitman's new GUI, it's just plain and beautiful.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167126

I am with you. It is a beautiful piece of work and the PDF's are very nice to have.

Thank you Hitman.

joegrundman · 04-13-10, 01:41 PM

U-jagd tools isn't really a GUI-mod in the same sense as the OLC gui, MaGUI, ACM and Hitman's recent GUI masterpiece. These are total GUI overhauls that replace the stock GUI (more or less) completely.

U-jagd tools is more related to FLB Sale's periscope TDC and Simfeeling dials, in that it is a tools add-on to the stock GUI.

U-jagd tools was produced contemporaneously with OLCs gui, and I produced U-jagd tools together with OLC and Hitman. Both projects strongly influencing the other.

The U-jagd tools was the original collection of targeting tools (attack disk, u-jagd chrono, aob finder) that have since been used to some degree in every other GUI mod. Thus the tools and the techniques associated with them (such as fixed wire speed estimate) have become quite widely known now.

There is therefore no real reason to contemplate the U-jagd tools mod now unless you very much prefer the stock gui over the full GUI mods. But with so many fully developed and excellent Gui mods to choose from now, i think that few SH3 players still prefer the stock gui

KL-alfman · 04-13-10, 04:37 PM

it's good to see one, who has done so much for the qualitiy of the sim, around!

hello joegrundman!

(I've watched some of your vid-tutorials)

Laufen zum Ziel · 04-14-10, 11:17 AM

JMV's GUI Thread
They are all good but I prefer MaGui 3.1(5) 26%
Hitman GUI 1.0 for NYGM3 and GWX3(4) 21%
Rafael DSK GUI(1) 5%
OLC Gui 1.2.7(2) 11%
OLC 'Gold' MkIId(0)
MkIIc(0)
6 Dials Simfeeling(0)
ACM Reloaded for OLC 'Gold' MkII(0)
AnotherCombiMod GUI v1.1.0 (ACM)(0)
OLC 'Gold' MkIIc(1) 5%
OLC GUI(0)
U-jagd(0)
OLC 'Gold' MkII(0)
WAC GUI look for GWX 3.0(0)
ACM-GUI Reloaded - h.sie's edition(5) 26%
New GUI with U-Jagd tools(0)
OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final(0)
OLC GUI Special(1) 5%
OLCE2(0)
LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special(0)

19 total votes since 04/11/10

04-11-10, 12:52 PM	#1
JMV Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Galway-IRELAND Posts: 397 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 0	Lost among the GUIs Ok, I'm at a complete loss with all those GUI Modes ( I'm probably not the only one though ), on top of it, I haven't visited the forum for a while. Could Somebody clarify what are the differences ? ( the main GUIs and the variants ) Are some obsolete ? What are the most up to date ? Those below are all the GUIs mentionned through the Forum that I could find. 1- MaGui 3.1 2- Hitman GUI 1.0 for NYGM3 and GWX3 3- Rafael DSK GUI 4- OLC Gui 1.2.7 5- OLC 'Gold' MkIId 6- MkIIc 7- 6 Dials Simfeeling 8- ACM Reloaded for OLC 'Gold' MkII 9- AnotherCombiMod GUI v1.1.0 (ACM) 10- OLC 'Gold' MkIIc 11- OLC GUI 12- U-jagd 13- OLC 'Gold' MkII 14- WAC GUI look for GWX 3.0 15- ACM-GUI Reloaded - h.sie's edition 16- New GUI with U-Jagd tools 17- OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final 18- OLC GUI Special 19- OLCE2 20- LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special Was there a thread that tell it all already ? Sorry, I know it's quite a bit of work to explain... Thanks all. JMV

04-11-10, 02:32 PM	#2
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	So many choices, so little time to play- There are a lot of GUI's to choose from and it is difficult to choose. It seems to me that the best thing to do is look at the various threads, download them, and try each one out. I've tried it that way with a few on your list and it seems that they all have plusses and minuses. But everyone will look for something different. What one person likes in one of them, someone else may not. I suppose one could find one they really like and mod it to there personal tastes. I'm definitely not to that point, although I've done some very minor tweeks here and there. I'm currently using hsie's ACM Reloaded. I've also used ACM v1.1. I like both. I'm seriously considering checking out MaGUI 3.1 and Hitman gui 1.0 for gwx. I've checked out OLC Gold, but where I'm at with my manual targeting, it is a little too much right now. Maybe in the future I'll give that another shot. Sorry, I can't be much help beyond that. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

04-11-10, 02:41 PM	#3
comet61 Sparky Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 151 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 0	Mods I use Magui 3.1 exclusivly. OLC and Magui are very closely related. Raphaels mods works very well with GWX3 on their own. It really depends on ones preference. But I agree on one suggestion is to try them all. You might find what you like most and use. Like me, Magui is pretty much all I need...not to mention ENV mods like MEP or SH5 Water mods that can be added later. But that's another topic.

04-11-10, 05:00 PM	#4
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	maybe a GUI sticky? __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

04-11-10, 06:05 PM	#5
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	WEB Poll in regard to JMV's question Poll Link..... http://hstrial-enigma1.intuitwebsite...ling-Site.html __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

04-11-10, 06:12 PM	#6
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Most of those are just updates of the other. Like the latest version of OLC 'Gold' MkIIa,b,c,d. Which follows after OLC Gui Special, Which came after OLC Gui 1.27, Which came after OLC Gui, where it all got started... not really, it was born at roughly the same time as the Ujagd mod, but that was made by Joegrundman, and is really a different mod using similar functionality in the attackdisk and attackperiscope. OLCE2 is more of an environment mod that had the 'gui special' come along with it because of file dependancies. The GUI special was optional though, and could be replaced with the GUI 1.27. The Gold MkII versions are a further update on the environment changes, again with his Gui part of it. The major change in the Gui would be between OLC Gui 1.27 and the Gui Special. Since the latter has only one zoom level in the periscope and didn't require modications to the recognition manual files (because of doubled mast heights). Most of the other GUIs you mentioned have their own descriptive thread to explain what they do. But most of OLCs threads may be hard to find since they are hidden quite deep in the dungeons of subsim.com. But you'll notice many took inspiration from his mods by how often his name (OLC) is linked to it. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

04-12-10, 11:59 AM	#8
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	Current web poll result JMV's GUI Thread They are all good but I prefer MaGui 3.1(2) 33% Hitman GUI 1.0 for NYGM3 and GWX3(2) 33% Rafael DSK GUI(0) OLC Gui 1.2.7(0) OLC 'Gold' MkIId(0) MkIIc(0) 6 Dials Simfeeling(0) ACM Reloaded for OLC 'Gold' MkII(0) AnotherCombiMod GUI v1.1.0 (ACM)(0) OLC 'Gold' MkIIc(0) OLC GUI(0) U-jagd(0) OLC 'Gold' MkII(0) WAC GUI look for GWX 3.0(0) ACM-GUI Reloaded - h.sie's edition(2) 33% New GUI with U-Jagd tools(0) OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final(0) OLC GUI Special(0) OLCE2(0) LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special(0) 6 total votes since 04/11/10 __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

04-13-10, 07:12 AM	#9
JMV Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Galway-IRELAND Posts: 397 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 0	Thank you all for your answers. A poll was a good idea, but a "sticky" would be better. A kind of chart if you prefer, decribing the main ones, what they do, what they affect, if they come as replacement of previous ones, as well as the derived ones what they do, with dates of [REL], with perhaps 2 or 3 miniature pictures. In this way I think everybody would know without having to read long pages of description in an attempt to find what they want. JMV

04-13-10, 07:56 AM	#10
KL-alfman Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weimar Posts: 930 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	when through to the end of war, I will start a new career using Hitman's new GUI, it's just plain and beautiful. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167126 __________________ Life, Liberty and Property!

04-13-10, 01:41 PM	#12
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	U-jagd tools isn't really a GUI-mod in the same sense as the OLC gui, MaGUI, ACM and Hitman's recent GUI masterpiece. These are total GUI overhauls that replace the stock GUI (more or less) completely. U-jagd tools is more related to FLB Sale's periscope TDC and Simfeeling dials, in that it is a tools add-on to the stock GUI. U-jagd tools was produced contemporaneously with OLCs gui, and I produced U-jagd tools together with OLC and Hitman. Both projects strongly influencing the other. The U-jagd tools was the original collection of targeting tools (attack disk, u-jagd chrono, aob finder) that have since been used to some degree in every other GUI mod. Thus the tools and the techniques associated with them (such as fixed wire speed estimate) have become quite widely known now. There is therefore no real reason to contemplate the U-jagd tools mod now unless you very much prefer the stock gui over the full GUI mods. But with so many fully developed and excellent Gui mods to choose from now, i think that few SH3 players still prefer the stock gui __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

04-13-10, 04:37 PM	#13
KL-alfman Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weimar Posts: 930 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	it's good to see one, who has done so much for the qualitiy of the sim, around! hello joegrundman! (I've watched some of your vid-tutorials) __________________ Life, Liberty and Property!

04-14-10, 11:17 AM	#14
Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	Poll Update JMV's GUI Thread They are all good but I prefer MaGui 3.1(5) 26% Hitman GUI 1.0 for NYGM3 and GWX3(4) 21% Rafael DSK GUI(1) 5% OLC Gui 1.2.7(2) 11% OLC 'Gold' MkIId(0) MkIIc(0) 6 Dials Simfeeling(0) ACM Reloaded for OLC 'Gold' MkII(0) AnotherCombiMod GUI v1.1.0 (ACM)(0) OLC 'Gold' MkIIc(1) 5% OLC GUI(0) U-jagd(0) OLC 'Gold' MkII(0) WAC GUI look for GWX 3.0(0) ACM-GUI Reloaded - h.sie's edition(5) 26% New GUI with U-Jagd tools(0) OLCU Special GUI LRT 2.02 Final(0) OLC GUI Special(1) 5% OLCE2(0) LRT 2.02 & OLC GUI Special(0) 19 total votes since 04/11/10 __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel