Binocular bearing scale

quink99 · 04-16-12, 02:55 PM

Does anyone know of a MOD which would make the bearing scale on the top of the binocular view stand out a bit more like the one in the periscope? I use NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ByTheDarkWraith if that matters. As it is the binocular bearing scale is practically unusable during the daytime.

finchOU · 04-16-12, 03:49 PM

havent MODed yet...but how can I disable the Bearing scale from the binocs so its like stock once I download the MOD? dont like it since you wouldnt have that scale IRL binocs...to each his own. (Sorry for the semi thread jack). And...Since we are talking binocs....do the MOD's remove the "aiming cross" and its ability to change red if its over a ship (gamey to me!).

LemonA · 04-17-12, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by finchOU

but how can I disable the Bearing scale from the binocs so its like stock once I download the MOD? dont like it since you wouldnt have that scale IRL binocs...to each his own.

The bearing scale in the bino is a compensation for the unrealistic difficult reading of the SH5 conning-tower compass. With the SH5-compass you can guess your course but you can't guess other bearings such as bearings to landmarks, navigation signs and other ships, which is unrealistic.

finchOU · 04-18-12, 12:52 AM

well what does the compass have to do with the relitive bearing scale in the binocs??? I think using the UZO for relative bearings and ranging is what you need to use for actual ploting for course and speed. You should be able to estimate pretty close what the relative bearing is just based off of where you are looking but not use for measurement. Besides the aiming cross....I dont like how unstable the bino view is.....a dude standing on the bridge with binocs can compensate for boat rock unless its in extreme waves. I dont like that aspect...the UZO is all over the place and hardly stable....was it not stablized IRL?

THE_MASK · 04-18-12, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by finchOU

well what does the compass have to do with the relitive bearing scale in the binocs??? I think using the UZO for relative bearings and ranging is what you need to use for actual ploting for course and speed. You should be able to estimate pretty close what the relative bearing is just based off of where you are looking but not use for measurement. Besides the aiming cross....I dont like how unstable the bino view is.....a dude standing on the bridge with binocs can compensate for boat rock unless its in extreme waves. I dont like that aspect...the UZO is all over the place and hardly stable....was it not stablized IRL?

Stabilize view is in the in game difficulty settings

LemonA · 04-18-12, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by finchOU

I think using the UZO for relative bearings and ranging is what you need to use for actual ploting for course and speed.

That is wrong. Ships without UZOs do there fundamental navigational technics (2-position-fix, Danger-bearing, Running-FIX etc) with the compass. Since the SH5-compass on the conning-tower is practical not readable the bearingscale in the bino is the compensation for it.

quink99 · 04-18-12, 10:00 AM

LemonA has got it right. In my sailing days I had a monocular with a READABLE (as opposed to our SH 5 binoculars) bearing scale. I used it all the time for two bearing navigational fixes and various other things. It should be equally useful in SH 5 when close to land for navigation and the results could be plotted on either the TAI or NAV map to update your DR fixes..........Fun and immersive! As to the stability of devices such as the binoculars it's the same on a RL small sailboat as on a sub and, perhaps, worse yet. With practice you get used to it as I have with the SH 5 binoculars.

finchOU · 04-18-12, 10:48 AM

Say what???? You mean a TRUE bearing scale...as the Binoc has a built in compass thus a scale??? I fail to see how a set of Binoculars can tell which way a ship is pointing to get relative bearing......aka from the bow. hmmm?....now on the carrier I was on we had FIXED binoculars (bolted to the ship) with a relative bearing scale just below the eye piece. I guess like the UZO.

quink99 · 04-18-12, 03:13 PM

FinchOU, No, of course the bearings were mag north related bearings which could then be converted to true north related bearings by the correct application of mag variation at the nav station or, if you knew the variation for your area, then by applying that to your reading from the bearing compass in the binoculars.

The bearing compass in the binoculars tells you nothing about the heading of the ship but rather only the MAG direction of an object which you are sighting. The reciprocal of this bearing line gives your direction from the object. Two of these lines crossed gives you a position fix........most useful in coastal pilotage or for those SH 5 KLs who are complaining about running aground using Real Navigation to update their DR.

Silent Steel · 04-19-12, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by quink99

FinchOU, No, of course the bearings were mag north related bearings which could then be converted to true north related bearings by the correct application of mag variation at the nav station or, if you knew the variation for your area, then by applying that to your reading from the bearing compass in the binoculars.

The bearing compass in the binoculars tells you nothing about the heading of the ship but rather only the MAG direction of an object which you are sighting. The reciprocal of this bearing line gives your direction from the object. Two of these lines crossed gives you a position fix........most useful in coastal pilotage or for those SH 5 KLs who are complaining about running aground using Real Navigation to update their DR.

04-16-12, 02:55 PM	#1
quink99 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 278 Downloads: 941 Uploads: 0	Binocular bearing scale Does anyone know of a MOD which would make the bearing scale on the top of the binocular view stand out a bit more like the one in the periscope? I use NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ByTheDarkWraith if that matters. As it is the binocular bearing scale is practically unusable during the daytime. Last edited by quink99; 04-16-12 at 03:19 PM.

04-16-12, 03:49 PM	#2
finchOU Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 571 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	havent MODed yet...but how can I disable the Bearing scale from the binocs so its like stock once I download the MOD? dont like it since you wouldnt have that scale IRL binocs...to each his own. (Sorry for the semi thread jack). And...Since we are talking binocs....do the MOD's remove the "aiming cross" and its ability to change red if its over a ship (gamey to me!). __________________ Intel i7-2700K-3.50GHz, 16 GB RAM, 2 xGTX 560,2GB,SLI,2 TB HD The Wolves of Steel 1.06 The Wolves of Steel 1.06 Update 05c

04-18-12, 12:52 AM	#4
finchOU Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 571 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	well what does the compass have to do with the relitive bearing scale in the binocs??? I think using the UZO for relative bearings and ranging is what you need to use for actual ploting for course and speed. You should be able to estimate pretty close what the relative bearing is just based off of where you are looking but not use for measurement. Besides the aiming cross....I dont like how unstable the bino view is.....a dude standing on the bridge with binocs can compensate for boat rock unless its in extreme waves. I dont like that aspect...the UZO is all over the place and hardly stable....was it not stablized IRL? __________________ Intel i7-2700K-3.50GHz, 16 GB RAM, 2 xGTX 560,2GB,SLI,2 TB HD The Wolves of Steel 1.06 The Wolves of Steel 1.06 Update 05c

04-18-12, 10:48 AM	#8
finchOU Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 571 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Say what???? You mean a TRUE bearing scale...as the Binoc has a built in compass thus a scale??? I fail to see how a set of Binoculars can tell which way a ship is pointing to get relative bearing......aka from the bow. hmmm?....now on the carrier I was on we had FIXED binoculars (bolted to the ship) with a relative bearing scale just below the eye piece. I guess like the UZO. __________________ Intel i7-2700K-3.50GHz, 16 GB RAM, 2 xGTX 560,2GB,SLI,2 TB HD The Wolves of Steel 1.06 The Wolves of Steel 1.06 Update 05c

04-18-12, 10:00 AM	#7
quink99 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 278 Downloads: 941 Uploads: 0	LemonA has got it right. In my sailing days I had a monocular with a READABLE (as opposed to our SH 5 binoculars) bearing scale. I used it all the time for two bearing navigational fixes and various other things. It should be equally useful in SH 5 when close to land for navigation and the results could be plotted on either the TAI or NAV map to update your DR fixes..........Fun and immersive! As to the stability of devices such as the binoculars it's the same on a RL small sailboat as on a sub and, perhaps, worse yet. With practice you get used to it as I have with the SH 5 binoculars.

04-18-12, 03:13 PM	#9
quink99 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 278 Downloads: 941 Uploads: 0	FinchOU, No, of course the bearings were mag north related bearings which could then be converted to true north related bearings by the correct application of mag variation at the nav station or, if you knew the variation for your area, then by applying that to your reading from the bearing compass in the binoculars. The bearing compass in the binoculars tells you nothing about the heading of the ship but rather only the MAG direction of an object which you are sighting. The reciprocal of this bearing line gives your direction from the object. Two of these lines crossed gives you a position fix........most useful in coastal pilotage or for those SH 5 KLs who are complaining about running aground using Real Navigation to update their DR.