uss hornet

[iowa101]

is it possible to concert google sketchup's to sh4 at all, because i have uss hornet an aircraft carrier. i have been working on putting color on it for at least and hour or two.

i have sent an email to ask permission to use the model and have recieved an email, saying 'not my model, but if you add, or change something then it becomes your work'

but i dont know how to convert or how to add weapons or torpedo tubes, also it needs propellers. i do not know how to make it playable either.

[iowa101]

these are the statistics for the uss hornet. the torpedoes are main weapon due to it being a carrier it has no deck guns

Length:
809 ft. 6 in.

Beam:
83 ft. 3 in.

Flightdeck Width:
127 ft.

Draft:
21 ft. 8 in.

Displacement:
20,000 tons

Propulsion:
Geared Turbines, 4 shafts,
120,000 shaft horsepower

Speed:
34 kts.

Armament:
81 planes, 8 x 5"/38,
16 x 1.1", 24 x 20mm

Armor:
4" belt, 1.5" deck

Complement:
2072

Class:
HORNET

if anyone could help get this ship into game with the option to play it througout the whole campaign. that would be brilliant
if anyone will help do this i can send the model to you for you to convert and get started on. also if it is possilbe add forward and aft torpedoe tubes
each.

forward: 2 tubes, with 30 reservers
aft: 2 tubes, with 30 reservers

[rditto48801]

So, the original USS Hornet, CV-8 of the Yorktown class, is the basis?

A sub has 1, maybe 2, 5in/25 caliber cannons. (125in barrel, muzzle velocity of some 2,100fps, range of 14k yards max)
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-25_mk10.htm
The Yorktown class used 5in/38 caliber cannons (190in barrel, muzzle velocity of around 2,500-2,600 fps, range of 17k yards max), on top of 450 rounds per gun.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-38_mk12.htm

Toss in the 20mm and 28mm guns, and it can easily take out stuff compared to the deck and AA guns of a sub.
With 8x5in/38 caliber guns (4 each side), that would be an average of 1x 5in shell fired, per side, per second.

Don't really need torpedoes.
Just drive into the middle of a convoy and pray the escorts don't have torpedoes.
(or find a way to make a playable carrier with the ability to deploy aircraft, or just shell them at max range and pray the escorts don't have long lance torpedoes)

Personally, I would go with a pre WWII Lexington class if it came to use a carrier that could not use aircraft. The pre-WWII Lexington class carriers were armed like cruisers, with 4x dual 8in cannons.
(although they were removed because firing them would apparently have torn the wooden deck apart... not that they cared much about aircraft when it was originally built post WWI)

Random thoughts for whoever might work on this idea.

Being a carrier is roughly 4 times wider than a fleet sub, it seems like it would be a easy task to have more than just 2 fore tubes below the waterline.
Maybe 8 fore and 2 aft? Or 6 fore and 4 aft like the big fleet subs if 8/2 is not possible?
Maybe having a quicker reload speed due to having plenty of space and power for extra machinery/equipment and/or manpower?
The large torpedo load sounds alright.

Rather than torpedoes, would it be possible to create 'invisible' tubes on the carrier deck that would 'launch' fighters?

Would it be possible to take a bit from the Lexington design and maybe find a way to mount smaller dual barrel 5in (or 6in?) turrets for and aft of the island for some added punch if aircraft are not a viable option for a playable carrier?

Looking online for info about the USS Hornet.

There are two different USS Hornets in WWII
CV-8, Yorktown class, launched Doolittle raids, sunk in 1942.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hornet_%28CV-8%29
Info on her assorted weapon loads.
She has been packing a fair bit more AA guns by the time she was sunk in 1942.
8 × 5 in/38 cal dual purpose guns
20 × 1.1 in/75 cal (a.k.a. 28mm)
32 × 20 mm
CV-8 more closely matches the info you posted.

CV-12. Essex class, originally USS Kearsarge, until renamed after the sinking of the CV-8 USS Hornet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hornet_%28CV-12%29
Very well armed when built, so likely not the one you meant.
4 × twin 5 inch (127 mm) 38 caliber guns
4 × single 5 inch (127 mm) 38 caliber guns
8 × quadruple 40 mm 56 caliber guns
46 × single 20 mm 78 caliber guns


Overall, with SH5 seeming to be a dud, and with starting to miss SH4, this subject seems to be very interesting.
(unfortunately, my modding skills are limited at best, limited to whatever simple edits can be via notepad, so I can't do much beyond toss out random ideas and comments)

[Karle94]

How about a deck gun firing planes or torpedoes in the form of planes.

[iowa101]

i can ge the model easily no worries, my mate has a few. all i need is for someone to convert it to sh4 compatibility, then add appropriate weapons.
and the torpedoe tubes (6 fore, 4 aft sounds good) with an addition of the anti- ship and aircraft guns.

if some one could do this then all we need then is to make it playable through the game in total.
as for the model i have the version that sank, but i can ask him for the later hornet. he wouldn't mind.

also we'd need someone to do this texture for her, so that it's as acurate to the best of our ability.
http://www.kmaw.com/af/cv12w.jpg

thats about as big as i could get it lol sorry

if anyone wants to help please let me know and i'll send you what i have of the model and we can get started.

[tonibamestre]

Interesting to find out the way to launch fighters.Also what would be awesome is to replace the sub command room for a detailed well texturized Bridge for each class.
Do you think that would be affordable?

[iowa101]

i now have a decent enough model for the ship, i am working on the uss hornet that is docked in california. but for now will the uss hornet that sunk in 1942 do. i will do the one sitting in calafornia over the next few days.

[iowa101]

about the brigde, im not sure but i guess we could give it a try. download google sketchup and try putting together a basic layout. then stick it in a ship model. i'll also try on my end

[Karle94]

I could convert from .skt to .obj wich the .dat supports

[iowa101]

if theres another way to send the files please tell me, so i can send them to you.

this is a list of things still needed, i dont have the experience to do these so i do apologize.

.propellers.
.weapon locaters.
.torpedo tubes (6 fore, 4 aft).
.deck planes.
.interior planes.
.crewmen.
.this texture if possible.
http://www.kmaw.com/af/cv8e.jpg