Afraid of Airplanes?

Fr8monkey · 03-25-10, 07:17 PM

Has anyone ever been attacked by an airplane at all in this game? Here I am, sailing at 8 knots and a pair of airplanes fly right over TWICE me and cant see me?!?

I don't even bother worrying about them any more on my patrols.

SabreHawk · 03-25-10, 07:30 PM

Well I used to be quite afraid of'em in SH3, but so far they haven't even so much as flipped me the bird. First few times I dove as has been my policy in the past. But Im getting a bit brave now in SH5 so far.

Note I said "so far" cause it does also seem to me that this may be by design at this early stage of the campaign. And that the pilots just aren't alert or expecting to find a sub out there, or they may well just not have seen me. It is concieveable.
But on that British coastal waters mission, I was approching a very large convoy and was nearly in position and on the surface in very rough sea and in broad daylight about 10:00 am, and over the course of an hour or so two pairs of aircraft flew right overhead and right over the convoy and just kept on going.
But it has also occured to me that they may be unarmed recon patrols not able to attack. So I may be in for a surprise in the next patrol once the Brits are onto us being out there.

Surfrider · 03-25-10, 07:32 PM

Nope,all fighters flying above and near passes me bye.Something is wrong with AI.Maybe some modder would fix some script, that airthreat is like SH3 and 4.

Ali Fish · 03-25-10, 07:35 PM

i took a trip down to the med from keil instead of doing british coastal waters mission. I stayed surfaced the whole time, not one attack from any ships. when i got past gibralter and properly in the med, the planes did start to attack me. im not using any mods.

my belief is that in the first few missions the game is simply very forgiving on all levels

CutMe · 03-25-10, 10:58 PM

i have encountered many of them but it seems they are hurricane... and they didnt touch me at all so far.

Frederf · 03-26-10, 01:30 AM

Airplanes without bombs do not attack but can report your position. Airplanes with bombs can attack. Hurricanes often/always do not carry bombs in SH5 so they do not engage in attack behavior.

Sgtmonkeynads · 03-26-10, 01:34 AM

The Luftwaffe does their job well. I spot a convoy, radio it in, and boom their there raiseing hell in no time. They have saved me a couple of times from a task force too.

captainprid · 03-26-10, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgtmonkeynads

The Luftwaffe does their job well. I spot a convoy, radio it in, and boom their there raiseing hell in no time. They have saved me a couple of times from a task force too.

Really? Is that just in the north??

Sgtmonkeynads · 03-26-10, 01:48 AM

Only place I've been so far. I'm based in Lorient, so I guess you must be in their range for them to help. Lots of action in the channel, it's getting to hot to travel through it now!

mcarlsonus · 03-26-10, 02:13 AM

The, "non-attacking, simply annoying" aircraft are a legacy of SH4's U-Boat add-on. In that one, pairs of Brewster Buffalos showed up continually, but never did anything other than slow down the action. Simply irritating! The only time I've been attacked by aircraft at all in SH5 was in one of the, "Historical Missions." In the campaigns, up to, "Happy Times" anyway, one sees 'em constantly but, even if they fly directly over, one may as well ignore 'em and reset the TC. Agreed - wish the modders would figure out a way to remove aircraft on, "not dangerous, simply obnoxious" setting!

GoldenRivet · 03-26-10, 02:41 AM

I am nearing 1942... i have seen literally hundreds of airplanes since September of 39... i mean i have probably had 500 airplane encounters if not more. In almost every encounter they fly within about 1KM of the boat... I would estimate that one in every three of the encounters results in the airplane(s) passing almost directly over the boat.

Not once.. Not one single time in the entire game have they ever attacked me or given me a second thought. Nor have they ever wavered from straight and level flight, dived on my boat, circled my position... NOTHING!

some folks here say they report your position.

hog wash

in the early campaign i tested this off the east coast of England... encountered a flight of hurricanes and i stopped. sat dead in the water for over 72 hours.

during that time i encountered 2 more flights of airplanes... one distant flight of 2, and one close flight of 2. Both flights were well within visual range of my surfaced boat.

during the entire 3 days of just sitting still i never saw a surface warship respond to any of these supposed "reports".

these airplanes have no attack routines whatsoever... they do nothing... they serve no apparent purpose in SH5 other than pointless scenery.

doomlordis · 03-26-10, 03:20 AM

Planes do attack, I have been straffed and bombed.
It only started in the med though.
One thing I did notice is that they don't seem to do any damage, I had 2 bombs go off right next to the con and no damage.
The upshot of this is that if you switch to high tc during a planes approach you may be attacked and not notice, the giveaway is the planes change of direction.

WolfgangKurtz · 03-26-10, 02:11 PM

i can tell you through bitter experience that they also bomb and strafe in the North Atlantic
I am on patrol near iceland on the Western Approaches campaign in Late 1941. there i was minding my own business looking for a Frigate or corvette to hassle when my Lookout crys airplane bearing 290 closing
After reading most of these post i thought nhaaa why bother when suddenly ping ping ping of cannon shell all round and nuts its droping Bloody bombs too.
Time to dive i think
So do not be fooled they do attack
Wolf

Fr8monkey · 03-26-10, 03:11 PM

Thanks for the updates. I guess the Limeys are just too lazy during the "Phony war".

silversurfer · 03-26-10, 03:16 PM

If you wait around long enough a task force of 3 to 4 destroyers turn up. It appears that the aircraft when it flys over is just a spotter. If the same aircraft makes a second pass a short time after its firsts its calling the destroyers..

03-25-10, 07:17 PM	#1
Fr8monkey Captain Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 518 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Afraid of Airplanes? Has anyone ever been attacked by an airplane at all in this game? Here I am, sailing at 8 knots and a pair of airplanes fly right over TWICE me and cant see me?!? I don't even bother worrying about them any more on my patrols. __________________ NASA's budget in 2011... $19 billion. Result: Hi-resolution images from 127 million miles away. AT&T's budget in 2011... $20 billion. Result: Still can't get any signal from my bathroom.

03-25-10, 07:30 PM	#2
SabreHawk Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Posts: 530 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well I used to be quite afraid of'em in SH3, but so far they haven't even so much as flipped me the bird. First few times I dove as has been my policy in the past. But Im getting a bit brave now in SH5 so far. Note I said "so far" cause it does also seem to me that this may be by design at this early stage of the campaign. And that the pilots just aren't alert or expecting to find a sub out there, or they may well just not have seen me. It is concieveable. But on that British coastal waters mission, I was approching a very large convoy and was nearly in position and on the surface in very rough sea and in broad daylight about 10:00 am, and over the course of an hour or so two pairs of aircraft flew right overhead and right over the convoy and just kept on going. But it has also occured to me that they may be unarmed recon patrols not able to attack. So I may be in for a surprise in the next patrol once the Brits are onto us being out there. __________________ "Chance favors the prepared mind"

03-26-10, 01:34 AM	#7
Sgtmonkeynads Ships Secretary Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MilesCity Montana Posts: 583 Downloads: 614 Uploads: 0	The Luftwaffe does their job well. I spot a convoy, radio it in, and boom their there raiseing hell in no time. They have saved me a couple of times from a task force too. __________________ Just help someone.....it makes a difference

03-26-10, 01:48 AM	#9
Sgtmonkeynads Ships Secretary Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MilesCity Montana Posts: 583 Downloads: 614 Uploads: 0	Only place I've been so far. I'm based in Lorient, so I guess you must be in their range for them to help. Lots of action in the channel, it's getting to hot to travel through it now! __________________ Just help someone.....it makes a difference

03-26-10, 02:41 AM	#11
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I am nearing 1942... i have seen literally hundreds of airplanes since September of 39... i mean i have probably had 500 airplane encounters if not more. In almost every encounter they fly within about 1KM of the boat... I would estimate that one in every three of the encounters results in the airplane(s) passing almost directly over the boat. Not once.. Not one single time in the entire game have they ever attacked me or given me a second thought. Nor have they ever wavered from straight and level flight, dived on my boat, circled my position... NOTHING! some folks here say they report your position. hog wash in the early campaign i tested this off the east coast of England... encountered a flight of hurricanes and i stopped. sat dead in the water for over 72 hours. during that time i encountered 2 more flights of airplanes... one distant flight of 2, and one close flight of 2. Both flights were well within visual range of my surfaced boat. during the entire 3 days of just sitting still i never saw a surface warship respond to any of these supposed "reports". these airplanes have no attack routines whatsoever... they do nothing... they serve no apparent purpose in SH5 other than pointless scenery. __________________

03-25-10, 07:32 PM	#3
Surfrider Watch Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 23 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Nope,all fighters flying above and near passes me bye.Something is wrong with AI.Maybe some modder would fix some script, that airthreat is like SH3 and 4.

03-25-10, 07:35 PM	#4
Ali Fish Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 33 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	i took a trip down to the med from keil instead of doing british coastal waters mission. I stayed surfaced the whole time, not one attack from any ships. when i got past gibralter and properly in the med, the planes did start to attack me. im not using any mods. my belief is that in the first few missions the game is simply very forgiving on all levels

03-25-10, 10:58 PM	#5
CutMe Seaman Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	i have encountered many of them but it seems they are hurricane... and they didnt touch me at all so far.

03-26-10, 01:30 AM	#6
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	Airplanes without bombs do not attack but can report your position. Airplanes with bombs can attack. Hurricanes often/always do not carry bombs in SH5 so they do not engage in attack behavior.

03-26-10, 02:13 AM	#10
mcarlsonus Weps Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 362 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	The, "non-attacking, simply annoying" aircraft are a legacy of SH4's U-Boat add-on. In that one, pairs of Brewster Buffalos showed up continually, but never did anything other than slow down the action. Simply irritating! The only time I've been attacked by aircraft at all in SH5 was in one of the, "Historical Missions." In the campaigns, up to, "Happy Times" anyway, one sees 'em constantly but, even if they fly directly over, one may as well ignore 'em and reset the TC. Agreed - wish the modders would figure out a way to remove aircraft on, "not dangerous, simply obnoxious" setting!

03-26-10, 03:20 AM	#12
doomlordis Wild Night in Bangkok Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 179 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Planes do attack, I have been straffed and bombed. It only started in the med though. One thing I did notice is that they don't seem to do any damage, I had 2 bombs go off right next to the con and no damage. The upshot of this is that if you switch to high tc during a planes approach you may be attacked and not notice, the giveaway is the planes change of direction. __________________ subs and birds!

03-26-10, 02:11 PM	#13
WolfgangKurtz Watch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norfolk UK Posts: 23 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	i can tell you through bitter experience that they also bomb and strafe in the North Atlantic I am on patrol near iceland on the Western Approaches campaign in Late 1941. there i was minding my own business looking for a Frigate or corvette to hassle when my Lookout crys airplane bearing 290 closing After reading most of these post i thought nhaaa why bother when suddenly ping ping ping of cannon shell all round and nuts its droping Bloody bombs too. Time to dive i think So do not be fooled they do attack Wolf __________________ Wolf

03-26-10, 03:11 PM	#14
Fr8monkey Captain Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 518 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the updates. I guess the Limeys are just too lazy during the "Phony war". __________________ NASA's budget in 2011... $19 billion. Result: Hi-resolution images from 127 million miles away. AT&T's budget in 2011... $20 billion. Result: Still can't get any signal from my bathroom.

03-26-10, 03:16 PM	#15
silversurfer Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 38 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	If you wait around long enough a task force of 3 to 4 destroyers turn up. It appears that the aircraft when it flys over is just a spotter. If the same aircraft makes a second pass a short time after its firsts its calling the destroyers..