The good old fashioned functional UI

[Lognoreng]

Would it somehow be possible to make SH5 more like SH3 with the things we can change with modding?

Take away the moral system, and all the passive and active abilities. And instead use a system where the crew gets slightly better as they are spending more time with their jobs during career patrols. Bring back the old order system with a command bar, because really, if the captain wanted the torpedo guys to load an electric eel in tube 4. Wouldnt he just relay that order thru his "right hand man" or something like that? (I have no clue how the real crew operated, but this seems more correct). And have the interior of the boat just as a way of immersion. All the running around and whispering orders in the crews ears are just to actually use the new space.

Basically, less RPG, more simulation..

Would it be possible at all?

Alex

[piri_reis]

Yes it's all possible, did you just get here?
Check the UI mods on this page for starters.

[Lognoreng]

I am aware of those. But is it possible to that extent?

[kylania]

Originally Posted by Lognoreng

I am aware of those. But is it possible to that extent?

You didn't look at the posts did you? We already have essentially the SH4 interface and the SH3 keeps getting closer and closer. Thankfully it's not an entire mirror of the older interface though, but we're getting back our functionality.

[Ducimus]

The good old fashioned functional UI

SH5 more like SH3...

You know there is alot of that going around. Why do people want things more like SH3? Nostalgia? Resistance to change? You know, if all command accessiblity was in place, there is a good argument for the new styled UI. It's not in your way, and has a low footprint on the screen, plus it's more ACCURATE then the same old 6 dials that people have been staring at since 2005.

I admit, in SH4, i missed the SH3 UI, for one reason, and one reason only. Interaction with the crew! Well, we obviously have that now in Sh5, don't we? So why go backwards?


Hell, im reminded of a little mod called the "realistic embodyment mod" I dont know if i came up with it, or someone else did.

Here's what i wrote back in 2007:

Realistic embodyment mod
Cause your hardcore and don't use the external camera.

Info:
It removes most shortcut keys and shortcut menu bar forcing the player to interact with the crew and move about the compartments as a real sub skipper would. You can however still "shout" commands to your crew via the officer menu on the bottom left of the UI.

Yup, no more jumping from the navigation map or control room to the attack periscope like a fart in the wind. Climb up that ladder to the conning tower captain! Want to check the captains log? its the little book on on the crew management table. Want to work out the damage control or crew assigments? You'll have to consult your charts, graphs and such at the crew management table. Want to man the hydrophones yourself? You'll have to walk over to your sonar man and tell him to shove a bun. Want to go back to the bridge after checking with the radioman? Its through the control room, and up the ladder

So anywho, i acknowledge that there's going to be a huge difference of opinion, and that there's two camps of folks in the UI department, Those who long wistfully for SH3, and those ready to try something new and move forward.

[TheDarkWraith]

call it options, call it choices, call it whatever you want. I'm a firm believer in user choice. I hate it when something is forced onto me. I like to be able to choose and thus is why I've made different UIs. Everybody likes things their way and thus giving them that choice lets them play the way they want.
As a side note it also gets me exposure to the files. The more I 'play' with the files the more I learn about the game. The more I learn the more options and more additions can be made. Plus to me, it's FUN to experiment and dabble and see what I can make.

[Galanti]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

You know there is alot of that going around. Why do people want things more like SH3? Nostalgia? Resistance to change? You know, if all command accessiblity was in place, there is a good argument for the new styled UI. It's not in your way, and has a low footprint on the screen, plus it's more ACCURATE then the same old 6 dials that people have been staring at since 2005.
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So anywho, i acknowledge that there's going to be a huge difference of opinion, and that there's two camps of folks in the UI department, Those who long wistfully for SH3, and those ready to try something new and move forward.

Nostalgia and resistance to change pretty much sums it up for me!

Duci, the thing is, the new UI is in my way. I dont' need the bazillion flashing indicators all over the place, nor do I need most of the junk in the upper-right corner (TC controls). Command accesibility? Most of it is missing completely. I'm a little surprised to see you making this argument.

I agree with where I think it is you're going with this, but SH5's stock UI is not it, IMHO.