Does anyone not have the loss of morale on loading a game bug?

Jeevz · 03-03-10, 01:59 PM

Just wondering if this is an across the board problem or if it's related to a specific configuration. Is there anyone who doesn't have their morale reset to nothing when you load a save?

sergei · 03-03-10, 03:48 PM

I have read quite a few people experiencing this. Have reloaded my patrol quite a few times today and it has not happened to me.
Seems to be an intermittent thing.

CCIP · 03-03-10, 03:49 PM

Well, it would be highly bizzare if this was indeed config-related. I will look into it a bit, but my understanding is that everyone has it.

The only thing I can think of that would make SOME sense is that I chose not to store my saves on the server

Heretic · 03-03-10, 03:50 PM

I've reloaded many times but haven't noticed anything like that.

CCIP · 03-03-10, 03:51 PM

Okay, let me look into possible relation to commands.cfg. If it is, I will probably be extremely embarassed

Bilge_Rat · 03-03-10, 03:53 PM

I have not been focusing on this aspect of the game yet. How do I check on my crew's "morale level"?

CCIP · 03-03-10, 03:55 PM

Go to your "crew management" screen and see if it has any yellow circles to the right of "Morale". If there is 5 of them, morale is at 100%. If there are none, chances are it's reset to 0.

Also talk to crew members and see if you have yellow or grey circles at the top of their dialog box.

piri_reis · 03-03-10, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

The only thing I can think of that would make SOME sense is that I chose not to store my saves on the server

Where is that option CCIP?

Jeevz · 03-03-10, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

The only thing I can think of that would make SOME sense is that I chose not to store my saves on the server

Same here, I wonder if that's the culprit. This is the only bug that's really bothering me right now. There are of course others but after SH3 and SH4 I can get by with a few bugs.

CCIP · 03-03-10, 03:57 PM

You can hit the "options" button when Ubi launcher pops up before game start (a little cogwheel thingy at the top of the window next to 'close') and select this.

Jeevz · 03-03-10, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Okay, let me look into possible relation to commands.cfg. If it is, I will probably be extremely embarassed

It was happening to me both before and after I changed commands.cfg, in my OP I meant Hardware/Driver/Etc configuration.

CCIP · 03-03-10, 04:22 PM

No, I haven't been able to track down any cause for it so far. It's not whether the saves go on the server or are stored locally, it's not the commands config, and it's not anything else that I can see so far (like overwriting old saves for example). As far as I can tell, that's just an issue I consistently have.

Schunken · 03-03-10, 04:26 PM

mmm...Can it have something to do with the browser of Ubi and your safety settings for the Internet? Like accept no cookies or something?

dont hit me, just "brainstorming"....

Andreas

Ragtag · 03-03-10, 04:33 PM

I have this bug to. Moral goes 0 when loading a save. U can see it on the dialog boxes.

CCIP · 03-03-10, 04:39 PM

I'm looking at my locally-saved files, and it's rather strange. (namely, ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc in each save folder). The saves I do before exiting the game definitely show morale/morale pool for each individual crew member as being non-0 (7 and 5, respectively). Afterwards if I get into the game and save again, the pool goes to 1 and morale to 0. So the problem definitely happens somewhere during the first time you reload a safe game.

I.e. it's not the save files doing it. The save files have morale saved. But for some reason these values are not interpreted correctly when the game loads.

Which tells me it's a hard-code issue, not data. The way in which the game recognizes this data when it loads saves is borked.

03-03-10, 01:59 PM	#1
Jeevz A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Does anyone not have the loss of morale on loading a game bug? Just wondering if this is an across the board problem or if it's related to a specific configuration. Is there anyone who doesn't have their morale reset to nothing when you load a save? __________________ Commence to Jigglin

03-03-10, 03:49 PM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Well, it would be highly bizzare if this was indeed config-related. I will look into it a bit, but my understanding is that everyone has it. The only thing I can think of that would make SOME sense is that I chose not to store my saves on the server __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-03-10, 03:50 PM	#4
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	I've reloaded many times but haven't noticed anything like that. __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

03-03-10, 03:51 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Okay, let me look into possible relation to commands.cfg. If it is, I will probably be extremely embarassed __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-03-10, 03:53 PM	#6
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I have not been focusing on this aspect of the game yet. How do I check on my crew's "morale level"? __________________

03-03-10, 03:48 PM	#2
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	I have read quite a few people experiencing this. Have reloaded my patrol quite a few times today and it has not happened to me. Seems to be an intermittent thing.

03-03-10, 03:55 PM	#7
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Go to your "crew management" screen and see if it has any yellow circles to the right of "Morale". If there is 5 of them, morale is at 100%. If there are none, chances are it's reset to 0. Also talk to crew members and see if you have yellow or grey circles at the top of their dialog box. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-03-10, 03:57 PM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	You can hit the "options" button when Ubi launcher pops up before game start (a little cogwheel thingy at the top of the window next to 'close') and select this. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-03-10, 04:22 PM	#12
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	No, I haven't been able to track down any cause for it so far. It's not whether the saves go on the server or are stored locally, it's not the commands config, and it's not anything else that I can see so far (like overwriting old saves for example). As far as I can tell, that's just an issue I consistently have. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-03-10, 04:26 PM	#13
Schunken Medic Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 168 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	mmm...Can it have something to do with the browser of Ubi and your safety settings for the Internet? Like accept no cookies or something? dont hit me, just "brainstorming".... Andreas

03-03-10, 04:33 PM	#14
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	I have this bug to. Moral goes 0 when loading a save. U can see it on the dialog boxes. __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

03-03-10, 04:39 PM	#15
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I'm looking at my locally-saved files, and it's rather strange. (namely, ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc in each save folder). The saves I do before exiting the game definitely show morale/morale pool for each individual crew member as being non-0 (7 and 5, respectively). Afterwards if I get into the game and save again, the pool goes to 1 and morale to 0. So the problem definitely happens somewhere during the first time you reload a safe game. I.e. it's not the save files doing it. The save files have morale saved. But for some reason these values are not interpreted correctly when the game loads. Which tells me it's a hard-code issue, not data. The way in which the game recognizes this data when it loads saves is borked. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)