(mini-rant) Haiti, aircraft carriers, and stupid people

Safe-Keeper · 01-23-10, 10:44 AM

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/daily..._tacoma_dr.php

So I was reading this article, considering the idea to have a nuclear sub or carrier dock at a Haititan city to be used as a floating power plant. It's an ingenious idea, harnessing the peacetime power of a giant warship to fuel a city struck by disaster. Made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

But then I read the comments:

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Originally Posted by **** off

NO NO NO NO NO. The people in Haiti need water, food, and medicine, not WAR MACHINES and TROOPS. What the **** is wrong with you military fetishists? The US and UN military already in Haiti are getting the way of relief delivery and distribution and making the situation even more chaotic. I'm appalled at how ****ing ignorant the Seattle Weekly is.

Fortunately, that was the only such comment there (not that there were more than four in total), but seriously, what the hell? I mean, it's one thing to be a pacifist, but how is it "military fetishism" to use weapons of war to save lives in a peaceful way? Surely if you hate the military this should be a welcome move?

What's wrong with people.

Schroeder · 01-23-10, 10:55 AM

This is a typical ultra left reaction. The moment anything is related to the military it has to be evil by default.

lorka42 · 01-23-10, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

This is a typical ultra left reaction. The moment anything is related to the military it has to be evil by default.

[mimes hitting a nail with a hammer]

but, seriously, any nimitz-class COULD power a town, easily. theyd just have to shut down flight ops. p.s. notice the other 3 are shooting down the lefty, LOL

antikristuseke · 01-23-10, 12:01 PM

The post is stupid but shows no political bias either way.

ETR3(SS) · 01-23-10, 12:17 PM

I used to be stationed out there when I was in the Navy, can't say I'm surprised by the comment.

SteamWake · 01-24-10, 10:08 AM

Stupid comment... enough said.

But I dont see how you would use a Carrier to power a city. There are several logistic issues to contend with.

For one thing the voltage phase and frequency most likely would not match. Then how to deliver the power? It's not like plugging in an extension cord. Then theres the safety issues ... overcurrent protection, arc fault protection, physical protection.

Finally theres the unseen factor. Lets say you ran some heavy copper cables to transmitt the power. It is almost assuredly only a matter of time before someone tries to steal that copper. It's Haitai thats how they do things.

No personally I think there efforts would be better put into re-establishing what little infrastructure they had there to begin with.

nikimcbee · 01-24-10, 10:49 AM

WE just want the haitian oil for our glorious empire! Viva haliburton

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It should only be renewable green energy, such as bio-diesel or hemp oil, not the evil atom power.

gutted · 01-25-10, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

It should only be renewable green energy, such as bio-diesel or hemp oil, not the evil atom power.

I say we just stack all the liberals in a big pile.. light em on fire.. and harness their green minded asses for fuel.

antikristuseke · 01-25-10, 01:53 PM

To burn a human body takes more energy than it releases.

gutted · 01-25-10, 01:56 PM

I wasn't being serious.

antikristuseke · 01-25-10, 02:00 PM

I realize that, but occasionally I like to post factualy correct information regardless of wether the the post I am replying to is serious or not.

AVGWarhawk · 01-25-10, 02:20 PM

Some countries just have an issue with nuke boats in their ports. -shrugs-

SteamWake · 01-25-10, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Some countries just have an issue with nuke boats in their ports. -shrugs-

Now that he mentions it doesent a carrier require a deep water port?

I'm not so sure Haitai has any.

Oberon · 01-25-10, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Some countries just have an issue with nuke boats in their ports. -shrugs-

*cough* Spain *cough*

mookiemookie · 01-25-10, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gutted

I say we just stack all the liberals in a big pile.. light em on fire.. and harness their green minded asses for fuel.

Actually, I think we'd get more energy if we could harness the irrational hate and ignorance of the right.

01-23-10, 10:55 AM	#2
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	This is a typical ultra left reaction. The moment anything is related to the military it has to be evil by default. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

01-23-10, 12:17 PM	#5
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I used to be stationed out there when I was in the Navy, can't say I'm surprised by the comment. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

01-24-10, 10:08 AM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Stupid comment... enough said. But I dont see how you would use a Carrier to power a city. There are several logistic issues to contend with. For one thing the voltage phase and frequency most likely would not match. Then how to deliver the power? It's not like plugging in an extension cord. Then theres the safety issues ... overcurrent protection, arc fault protection, physical protection. Finally theres the unseen factor. Lets say you ran some heavy copper cables to transmitt the power. It is almost assuredly only a matter of time before someone tries to steal that copper. It's Haitai thats how they do things. No personally I think there efforts would be better put into re-establishing what little infrastructure they had there to begin with. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

01-24-10, 10:49 AM	#7
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	WE just want the haitian oil for our glorious empire! Viva haliburton. It should only be renewable green energy, such as bio-diesel or hemp oil, not the evil atom power. __________________

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Some countries just have an issue with nuke boats in their ports. -shrugs- __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-23-10, 12:01 PM	#4
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	The post is stupid but shows no political bias either way.

01-25-10, 01:53 PM	#9
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	To burn a human body takes more energy than it releases.

01-25-10, 01:56 PM	#10
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	I wasn't being serious.

01-25-10, 02:00 PM	#11
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I realize that, but occasionally I like to post factualy correct information regardless of wether the the post I am replying to is serious or not.