Army General Makes Pregnancy Punishable Offense in Iraq

[ETR3(SS)]

I'm glad someone still has their balls attached in our military today.

According to the Nov. 4 general order of Maj. Gen. Anthony Cucolo III, a commander in northern Iraq, the punishment would apply not only to the female soldiers who become pregnant, but also to the male soldiers who impregnate them, even if the couple is married.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/army-maj-ge...9391242&page=1

A good example of why woman should be excluded from these situations.

[Skybird]

Illustrates how overstretched american military ressources are - and probably also how unpopular the war has become even within the military.

But I doubt that any pregant soldier ever would be punished. The General has fired an empty threat to bring attention to an urgent issue.

[XabbaRus]

I agree. I don't have a problem with women serving but when in theatre there should be restrictions. I also wouldn't post a married couple in the army to the same theatre for obvious reasons. One being what he has stated.

I bet the PC brigade will start screaming discrimination but who cares.

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

I agree. I don't have a problem with women serving but when in theatre there should be restrictions. I also wouldn't post a married couple in the army to the same theatre for obvious reasons. One being what he has stated.

I bet the PC brigade will start screaming discrimination but who cares.

The hidden problem with the PC Brigade is that what they are pushing as a Right for a minority of women today, will be transformed to a Requirement for all women tommorrow.

[ETR3(SS)]

Snestorm,; you hit it right on the nose there.

Skybird; American Military Resources are stretched at any time, and by the military's own doing. I think it's safe to say that being in a combat zone is unpopular no matter how fresh or old the war is. But I personally hope that this is not an empty threat, and that the first one to violate this order gives birth behind bars. PCness has gotten out of hand in this world. Somebody needs to stand up and call out the BS that's going on. You join the military for a reason, and that reason is not making babies.

XabbaRus; Top of page three the PC circus begins.

[August]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

The hidden problem with the PC Brigade is that what they are pushing as a Right for a minority of women today, will be transformed to a Requirement for all women tommorrow.

Yeah the womens movement fought for the right for women to enter the workplace. Now it's pretty much necessary for both parents to work just to make ends meet.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Snestorm,; you hit it right on the nose there.

Skybird; American Military Resources are stretched at any time, and by the military's own doing. I think it's safe to say that being in a combat zone is unpopular no matter how fresh or old the war is. But I personally hope that this is not an empty threat, and that the first one to violate this order gives birth behind bars. PCness has gotten out of hand in this world. Somebody needs to stand up and call out the BS that's going on. You join the military for a reason, and that reason is not making babies.

Sure, but you do not stop to be a human subjugated to human drives and motives just because you wear a uniform. Most people do not stop to think about sex just because they are at war.

Also, many poor people and members of the social low class do not join the military necessarily because of idealistic reasons, but because it is their only way to escape the street, their former worse life, and being a loser of the social low class. That in the past years recruitment standards in the US have been massively lowered so to fill the opening gaps in the sufficient supply with "fresh meat", does not help to raise motivation. For more people than before, joining the military now simply is - a job. and quite some have not thoroughly thought about it - the aggressive recruiters you have in the US that even visit schools and can demand the datafiles of class members to adress them personally, adds another effect.

quite some people, due to lacking alternatives, join the military for the same reason why I did some underpayed, stressing bad jobs in my past, too (and I have had quite a variety of different jobs): because of needing money. that also many soldiers come back from their tour pretty much disillusionised, does not help to improve morale.

If that general is clever, he starts distributing condoms.

Originally Posted by August

Yeah the womens movement fought for the right for women to enter the workplace. Now it's pretty much necessary for both parents to work just to make ends meet.

Yeah. And the kids are left to be indoctrinated by the PC controled state.

I like the old rules better:
If you can't afford to support her, you can't marry her.
And you'd better make damn certain not to get her pregnant!

Originally Posted by Skybird

If that general is clever, he starts distributing condoms.

Wrong!

[Ducimus]

Military hospital's have been distributing condoms for years. Problem is their really cheap and tend to break. They do make great oxyacetlyne bombs though.

The whole women's lib stuff will only go so far. The fact is, while in the military, you live under a completely different set of rules. You are, in effect, while under contract, US government property. If you engage in any avoidable behavior that will result in missing a movement, become undeployable, or otherwise result in a failure to perform your duty, they can slam you.

[Jimbuna]

Gotta agree...they signed up to serve their country and obey orders...not to have children and leave gaps in their units.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Uh, you sign up for the military, you abide by their rules.

Also, women use the pregnancy "get out of harm" card all the time. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Military hospital's have been distributing condoms for years. Problem is their really cheap and tend to break. They do make great oxyacetlyne bombs though.

The whole women's lib stuff will only go so far. The fact is, while in the military, you live under a completely different set of rules. You are, in effect, while under contract, US government property. If you engage in any avoidable behavior that will result in missing a movement, become undeployable, or otherwise result in a failure to perform your duty, they can slam you.

Government... property? You cannot mean that literally. That would be slavery, and would call all situations void and invalid that could be imagined where soldiers are not only free but maybe even have the duty to not carry out illegal orders.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Gotta agree...they signed up to serve their country and obey orders...not to have children and leave gaps in their units.

I always thought it was stupid to put women on board combat ships. Can you imagine all the nasty soap opera drama on board a Nimitz class carrier which could screw w/its combat effectiveness?