Medal madness

Sea Sap · 12-08-09, 07:42 PM

It's 1939 I got awarded the Uboat badge for docking at the habour after the shakedown and now I've been awarded the German cross in gold for sinking a measly 2200 tons.

I look in the cnfg files and find no criteria for these two medal and the front clasp. Just how does this crazy game decide when these medals are given out? and why couldn't they get such a simple part of the game right!

Sailor Steve · 12-08-09, 08:03 PM

What version are you playing?

Sea Sap · 12-08-09, 08:06 PM

GWX3

Sailor Steve · 12-08-09, 08:22 PM

Interesting. I've been given the Knight's Cross Second Class, but never the U-boat Badge.

I don't know.

Draka · 12-08-09, 08:43 PM

GWX should award you the War Badge upon completion of your second war patrol - and it is the same criteria for crewmen. As for the other - did you edit any files or otherwise increase your renown in any way?

I have done that for several campaigns, and the game bases awarded medals on that renown - one group I play with has an app that automatically grants 25000 renown just so we can outfit newly commissioned boats as appropriate via historical records - and/or available supplies in-game from Flotilla requests. This renown will cause nearly created Kaleuns to have every medal in game - thus I edit the files afterwords to remove same.

As an aside - I also manipulate the crew lists to be historical if I can find such a listing for my boats.

On the other hand, if you are using any mods that add in ships they may be incorrect as to the renown awarded for them - IIRC there was one such in an earlier version of one such list - can't remember which one at the moment but it was discussed on this list a while back.

Sea Sap · 12-09-09, 05:37 AM

Draka,

The only mod I use is GWX3 and the only things I change are number of days in base and crew names. I have changed the figure for fuel consumption on the IIA using S3D but that just changes one value.

I now see why I was given the Uboat badge after two patrols and I guess that's fine but the gold cross for sinking a small passenger cargo! I won't be able to show my face in the bars of Kiel when there are guys out and about sporting ICs for sinking battleships.

Sea Sap · 12-09-09, 08:47 AM

This is from the basic cfg.

[PLAYER_RENOWN]
AcademyBonus=1000
RankLevel0=0; SCORE
RankLevel1=1499; SCORE
RankLevel2=7999; SCORE
RankLevel3=14999; SCORE
MedalSettings0=0.25
MedalSettings1=0.5
MedalSettings2=1
MedalScore0=3000;2 class, SCORE
MedalScore1=7000;1 class, SCORE
MedalScore2=15000; knight, SCORE
MedalScore3=25000; oak leaves, SCORE
MedalScore4=37000;swords, SCORE
MedalScore5=50000;diamonds, SCORE
MedalScore6=80000;all, SCORE

This from my current commander’s career cfg.

Renown=90.000000
Finished=false
WarOver=false
Experience=590.000000
Medal0=-1
Medal1=-1
Medal2=-1
Medal3=-1
Medal4=-1
Medal5=-1
Medal6=-1
Medal7=-1
Medal8=2
Medal9=3

I don’t see renown values for medals 7,8 and 9 in the basic cfg, which I assume to the front clasp, uboat badge and gold cross.

Rapt0r56 · 12-09-09, 10:06 AM

Quote:

after the shakedown and now I've been awarded the German cross in gold for sinking a measly 2200 tons.

I never had the German Cross in my whole GWX Campaings...

but once the Uboat Badge and some other Medals.
I think the GW Team made a really good job.

Sry i can't help you.

Draka · 12-09-09, 12:53 PM

0=Iron Cross Second Class
1=Iron Cross First Class
2=German Cross in Gold
3=Knights Cross
4=Knights Cross Oak Leaves
5=Knights Cross Oak Leaves and Swords
6=U-Boat Front Clasp
7=U-Boat War Badge
8=Wound Badge

Sea Sap · 12-09-09, 03:15 PM

Draka,

Take a look at those figures I posted. They are actuall cut and pastes from my game files. The medals with -1 value I didn't have and when I changed medals 8 and 9 back to -1 they disappeared from my medal box. So in my game medal 8 is front clasp and medal 9 is gold cross.

I'm debating with myself whether or not to add lines for the three medals which are missing and give them the renown values I think they should have in order to make them be awarded in what I consider the right sequence but I'm unsure if other forces are at work and worried that doing so may screw something up.

psykopatsak · 12-09-09, 05:30 PM

and i never even got the badge, and im on my 33rd patrol. granted i diddnt start in GWX, i started campaign in vanilla.

Draka · 12-09-09, 07:02 PM

I posted the one for Crew_Career_XX.cfg files - Players (CareersXX.cfg) one:

0=Iron Cross Second Class
1=Iron Cross First Class
2=German Cross in Gold
3=Knights Cross
4=Knights Cross Oak Leaves
5=Knights Cross Oak Leaves and Swords
6=Knights Cross Oak Leaves,Swords and Diamonds
7=U-Boat Front Clasp
8=U-Boat War Badge
9=Wound Badge

My bad.

The way it SHOULD work is that you can have up to 10 medals - but the order in which they are awarded isn't important. In your case:

Medal8=2
Medal9=3

Medal number 8 = Type 2 - which is the Iron Cross in Gold, and Medal Number 9 = Type 3 - Knight's Cross. Normally you get them in the same order as the type - but yours are different.

I've been playing around a lot in editing the files lately - based on an old thread that JScones pointed out to me - and so far that is my experience. Why yours is so outta whack is a mystery ......

I'm making a new Kaleun at the moment and will cut'n'paste yer values in and see what happens ...

Sea Sap · 12-09-09, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draka

I'm making a new Kaleun at the moment and will cut'n'paste yer values in and see what happens ...

Hmm, that will be interesting, let me know what you get.

For now I've just taken them away by resetting them to -1. I'll see what they give me when I return after the next patrol. Same patrol grid so maybe if I bag me another small passenger cargo they might make me Fuhrer.

Draka · 12-09-09, 07:58 PM

OK - I was wrong. <Egg on face>

Correct settings:

Medal0=Iron Cross Second Class
Medal1=Iron Cross First Class
Medal2=Knights Cross
Medal3=Knights Cross With Oak Leaves
Medal4=Knights Cross With Oak Leaves and Swords
Medal5=Knights Cross With Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds
Medal6=Knights Cross With Golden Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds
Medal7=U-Boat War Badge
Medal8=U-Boat War Badge Front Clasp
Medal9=German Cross in Gold

The number can be any positive value - it is the order in which it was awarded, but the game doesn't give a damn when displaying them. Any negative value means no medal - "-1" is used by default. What threw me was I normally work in progression, so throwing random numbers in there wasn't part of my test routine. And that crew can receive the Wound Badge, but I can't find anywhere the player can earn it - apparently, you get wounded, you die!

It still doesn't explain your first question, tho - you should have been awarded Medal7 after your second patrol - but it gave you the Clasp at the same time - which is wrong. Note that the program ASSUMES that you had Medal7 and didn't hiccup on awarding you Medal8 to a non-existing reward!

More testing ......

p.s. That old thread that got me started:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=grad%3D

Sea Sap · 12-10-09, 05:13 AM

This is what I'm thinking of trying after I finish my next patrol.

In the basic cfg I intend adding the following two lines.

MedalScore8=2000;war badge, SCORE
MedalScore9=10000;gold cross, SCORE

If it works how I think it does, then you would get the War Badge first, and the Gold Cross inbetween Iron Cross 1 and Knights Cross. The Front Clasp should be awarded by the final line (MedalScore6=80000;all, SCORE) making it the final award, which if it is the gold version of the Front Clasp is OK because apparently none were ever awarded.

12-08-09, 07:42 PM	#1
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Medal madness It's 1939 I got awarded the Uboat badge for docking at the habour after the shakedown and now I've been awarded the German cross in gold for sinking a measly 2200 tons. I look in the cnfg files and find no criteria for these two medal and the front clasp. Just how does this crazy game decide when these medals are given out? and why couldn't they get such a simple part of the game right!

12-08-09, 08:03 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	What version are you playing? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-08-09, 08:22 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Interesting. I've been given the Knight's Cross Second Class, but never the U-boat Badge. I don't know. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-08-09, 08:06 PM	#3
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	GWX3

12-08-09, 08:43 PM	#5
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	GWX should award you the War Badge upon completion of your second war patrol - and it is the same criteria for crewmen. As for the other - did you edit any files or otherwise increase your renown in any way? I have done that for several campaigns, and the game bases awarded medals on that renown - one group I play with has an app that automatically grants 25000 renown just so we can outfit newly commissioned boats as appropriate via historical records - and/or available supplies in-game from Flotilla requests. This renown will cause nearly created Kaleuns to have every medal in game - thus I edit the files afterwords to remove same. As an aside - I also manipulate the crew lists to be historical if I can find such a listing for my boats. On the other hand, if you are using any mods that add in ships they may be incorrect as to the renown awarded for them - IIRC there was one such in an earlier version of one such list - can't remember which one at the moment but it was discussed on this list a while back.

12-09-09, 05:37 AM	#6
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Draka, The only mod I use is GWX3 and the only things I change are number of days in base and crew names. I have changed the figure for fuel consumption on the IIA using S3D but that just changes one value. I now see why I was given the Uboat badge after two patrols and I guess that's fine but the gold cross for sinking a small passenger cargo! I won't be able to show my face in the bars of Kiel when there are guys out and about sporting ICs for sinking battleships.

12-09-09, 08:47 AM	#7
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	This is from the basic cfg. [PLAYER_RENOWN] AcademyBonus=1000 RankLevel0=0; SCORE RankLevel1=1499; SCORE RankLevel2=7999; SCORE RankLevel3=14999; SCORE MedalSettings0=0.25 MedalSettings1=0.5 MedalSettings2=1 MedalScore0=3000;2 class, SCORE MedalScore1=7000;1 class, SCORE MedalScore2=15000; knight, SCORE MedalScore3=25000; oak leaves, SCORE MedalScore4=37000;swords, SCORE MedalScore5=50000;diamonds, SCORE MedalScore6=80000;all, SCORE This from my current commander’s career cfg. Renown=90.000000 Finished=false WarOver=false Experience=590.000000 Medal0=-1 Medal1=-1 Medal2=-1 Medal3=-1 Medal4=-1 Medal5=-1 Medal6=-1 Medal7=-1 Medal8=2 Medal9=3 I don’t see renown values for medals 7,8 and 9 in the basic cfg, which I assume to the front clasp, uboat badge and gold cross.

12-09-09, 12:53 PM	#9
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	0=Iron Cross Second Class 1=Iron Cross First Class 2=German Cross in Gold 3=Knights Cross 4=Knights Cross Oak Leaves 5=Knights Cross Oak Leaves and Swords 6=U-Boat Front Clasp 7=U-Boat War Badge 8=Wound Badge

12-09-09, 03:15 PM	#10
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Draka, Take a look at those figures I posted. They are actuall cut and pastes from my game files. The medals with -1 value I didn't have and when I changed medals 8 and 9 back to -1 they disappeared from my medal box. So in my game medal 8 is front clasp and medal 9 is gold cross. I'm debating with myself whether or not to add lines for the three medals which are missing and give them the renown values I think they should have in order to make them be awarded in what I consider the right sequence but I'm unsure if other forces are at work and worried that doing so may screw something up.

12-09-09, 05:30 PM	#11
psykopatsak Medic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Grid AO27 Posts: 161 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	and i never even got the badge, and im on my 33rd patrol. granted i diddnt start in GWX, i started campaign in vanilla.

12-09-09, 07:02 PM	#12
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	I posted the one for Crew_Career_XX.cfg files - Players (CareersXX.cfg) one: 0=Iron Cross Second Class 1=Iron Cross First Class 2=German Cross in Gold 3=Knights Cross 4=Knights Cross Oak Leaves 5=Knights Cross Oak Leaves and Swords 6=Knights Cross Oak Leaves,Swords and Diamonds 7=U-Boat Front Clasp 8=U-Boat War Badge 9=Wound Badge My bad. The way it SHOULD work is that you can have up to 10 medals - but the order in which they are awarded isn't important. In your case: Medal8=2 Medal9=3 Medal number 8 = Type 2 - which is the Iron Cross in Gold, and Medal Number 9 = Type 3 - Knight's Cross. Normally you get them in the same order as the type - but yours are different. I've been playing around a lot in editing the files lately - based on an old thread that JScones pointed out to me - and so far that is my experience. Why yours is so outta whack is a mystery ...... I'm making a new Kaleun at the moment and will cut'n'paste yer values in and see what happens ...

12-09-09, 07:58 PM	#14
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	OK - I was wrong. <Egg on face> Correct settings: Medal0=Iron Cross Second Class Medal1=Iron Cross First Class Medal2=Knights Cross Medal3=Knights Cross With Oak Leaves Medal4=Knights Cross With Oak Leaves and Swords Medal5=Knights Cross With Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds Medal6=Knights Cross With Golden Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds Medal7=U-Boat War Badge Medal8=U-Boat War Badge Front Clasp Medal9=German Cross in Gold The number can be any positive value - it is the order in which it was awarded, but the game doesn't give a damn when displaying them. Any negative value means no medal - "-1" is used by default. What threw me was I normally work in progression, so throwing random numbers in there wasn't part of my test routine. And that crew can receive the Wound Badge, but I can't find anywhere the player can earn it - apparently, you get wounded, you die! It still doesn't explain your first question, tho - you should have been awarded Medal7 after your second patrol - but it gave you the Clasp at the same time - which is wrong. Note that the program ASSUMES that you had Medal7 and didn't hiccup on awarding you Medal8 to a non-existing reward! More testing ...... p.s. That old thread that got me started: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=grad%3D

12-10-09, 05:13 AM	#15
Sea Sap Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 42 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	This is what I'm thinking of trying after I finish my next patrol. In the basic cfg I intend adding the following two lines. MedalScore8=2000;war badge, SCORE MedalScore9=10000;gold cross, SCORE If it works how I think it does, then you would get the War Badge first, and the Gold Cross inbetween Iron Cross 1 and Knights Cross. The Front Clasp should be awarded by the final line (MedalScore6=80000;all, SCORE) making it the final award, which if it is the gold version of the Front Clasp is OK because apparently none were ever awarded.