User Manual

TDK1044 · 11-25-09, 07:53 AM

Please Ubisoft, don't underestimate the importance of producing a very good user manual for Silent Hunter5.

The book for Silent Hunter 4 was useless and a total joke. It seemed to have been created by people who had never actually seen the game.

Silent Hunter 5 feels like an exciting new venture into the ice cold waters of the Atlantic U Boat campaign, please give us a user manual that reflects the excellent work of your Devs, and not some useless book that's full of pretty pictures.

Thank you in anticipation....

Reece · 11-25-09, 08:18 AM

Yes, I will always gladly pay more for a good printed manual,

I hate pdf manuals!!

The General · 11-25-09, 08:37 AM

I'm gonna counter this by saying that PDF's are fine. If you want a printed manual, print your own. Enough with the cutting down trees already!

Dread Knot · 11-25-09, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The General

I'm gonna counter this by saying that PDF's are fine. If you want a printed manual, print your own. Enough with the cutting down trees already!

A lot of people print out their PDF files or take them in to be professionally printed and bound. The ones that print them themselves usually use the typical 8.5 by 11 inch paper which is larger than most printed game manuals. So the trees die anyway.

TDK1044 · 11-25-09, 10:10 AM

If I'm paying $49.99 for a game, I want a nice, glossy, well thought out, informative user manual. Keep the pens and the cheesy gimmicks....just give me a decent user manual.

Ducimus · 11-25-09, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044

If I'm paying $49.99 for a game, I want a nice, glossy, well thought out, informative user manual. Keep the pens and the cheesy gimmicks....just give me a decent user manual.

Considering this is supposed to be a simulation, i'd say your god damn right. For a simulation, Id expect a manual on par with Aces of the Deep, or Silent Hunter 1. Anything less is a crock of excrement.

11-25-09, 05:17 PM

Why a printed manual?:
Because one may need to access information while playing the sim.
The print should also be large enough for easy reading!

You should have seen the manual for Avalon Hill's Advanced Squad Leader.
It was a full sized looseleaf binder.

karamazovnew · 11-25-09, 05:28 PM

How about an old looking manual, like the official ones, with ugly typewriter fonts and schematics instead of color screenshots? They could make a bunch of them, at least for the Collector's edition:
Uboat Operation manual : which describes procedures and equipment, including "tips" of how to get along with the crew.
Tactics manual: which describes in detail the types of attack, convoy tactics and so on...
Ship Recognition Manual: with a hard plastic folder type cover and clear tabs so you can add your own custom pages.
SH5 Game manual: for Install, game options, Mission editor and the other pc stuff.

ichso · 11-25-09, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot

A lot of people print out their PDF files or take them in to be professionally printed and bound. The ones that print them themselves usually use the typical 8.5 by 11 inch paper which is larger than most printed game manuals. So the trees die anyway.

The idea is valid. Even if some enthusiasts print out a manual, this will use up much less paper than when each buyer gets a copy on his/her own.

Also, after so many titles of SH and similiar games, there is nothing left to be learned from manuals anyways...
The few new controls and such are figured out quickly - they are supposed to be rather intuitive. The most helpful (or at least interesting) manuals come either with GWX or are posted here as time goes

Reece · 11-25-09, 07:14 PM

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Snestorm said:
The print should also be large enough for easy reading!

Yes I agree with that, I don't like having to use the magnifying glass all the time!

Lord Justice · 11-25-09, 08:03 PM

man some you guys would flip out at the first piece of rust that appears on our u- boats, dont expect a free map with new shiny user guide then lol, As for less basic instruction yes

because this might hinder the newcomers to the hunters series!! waste of man power and subs they more prone to KIA quickly and contibute less to our war effort, thus giving up and revertin back to thier all games consoles. Keep the small amount of knights crosses to be earned the hard way.

SteamWake · 11-25-09, 08:08 PM

Haha ... trees... they grow back you know.

anyhow.

The developers know full and well that the manuals espically for SH4 were a running joke, coasters, level tables, and so on.

Fortunatly alot of pepole found subsim. But unforuntatly alot did not.

Those that did not were left with a weak and runny descripton of the game and even downright erronious information.

A very sad showing from a 'professional' house.

Lets hope they do better this time.

Faamecanic · 11-25-09, 09:49 PM

Use recycled paper....no trees were harmed in the making of this manual

Sad to think that SH1...a 8 bit game that fit on, what, a 256kb floppy

had a manual that was to die for. BUt yet if you look at SH4 it was printed on leftover paper from SH3 (the background picture on all the pages was of a Uboat...the same background image from the sH3 manual).

karamazovnew · 11-25-09, 11:31 PM

At least you guys HAVE a manual. My SH3 and SH4 came in DVD boxes with the disk and lots of air....

. Oh God, please bring back Microprose...My 600 page Falcon 4 manual and 400 page M1 Tank Platoon one need company.

GoldenRivet · 11-26-09, 01:41 AM

the trees comment brings my bumper sticker to mind...

"Erase your carbon footprint... Kill yourself you fu%$in' hippie."

11-25-09, 07:53 AM	#1
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	User Manual Please Ubisoft, don't underestimate the importance of producing a very good user manual for Silent Hunter5. The book for Silent Hunter 4 was useless and a total joke. It seemed to have been created by people who had never actually seen the game. Silent Hunter 5 feels like an exciting new venture into the ice cold waters of the Atlantic U Boat campaign, please give us a user manual that reflects the excellent work of your Devs, and not some useless book that's full of pretty pictures. Thank you in anticipation....

11-25-09, 08:18 AM	#2
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,691 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Yes, I will always gladly pay more for a good printed manual, I hate pdf manuals!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-25-09, 08:37 AM	#3
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	I'm gonna counter this by saying that PDF's are fine. If you want a printed manual, print your own. Enough with the cutting down trees already! __________________ *THE GENERAL*

11-25-09, 08:08 PM	#12
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Haha ... trees... they grow back you know. anyhow. The developers know full and well that the manuals espically for SH4 were a running joke, coasters, level tables, and so on. Fortunatly alot of pepole found subsim. But unforuntatly alot did not. Those that did not were left with a weak and runny descripton of the game and even downright erronious information. A very sad showing from a 'professional' house. Lets hope they do better this time. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

11-25-09, 11:31 PM	#14
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	At least you guys HAVE a manual. My SH3 and SH4 came in DVD boxes with the disk and lots of air..... Oh God, please bring back Microprose...My 600 page Falcon 4 manual and 400 page M1 Tank Platoon one need company.

11-25-09, 10:10 AM	#5
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	If I'm paying $49.99 for a game, I want a nice, glossy, well thought out, informative user manual. Keep the pens and the cheesy gimmicks....just give me a decent user manual.

11-25-09, 05:17 PM	#7
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Why a printed manual?: Because one may need to access information while playing the sim. The print should also be large enough for easy reading! You should have seen the manual for Avalon Hill's Advanced Squad Leader. It was a full sized looseleaf binder.

11-25-09, 05:28 PM	#8
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	How about an old looking manual, like the official ones, with ugly typewriter fonts and schematics instead of color screenshots? They could make a bunch of them, at least for the Collector's edition: Uboat Operation manual : which describes procedures and equipment, including "tips" of how to get along with the crew. Tactics manual: which describes in detail the types of attack, convoy tactics and so on... Ship Recognition Manual: with a hard plastic folder type cover and clear tabs so you can add your own custom pages. SH5 Game manual: for Install, game options, Mission editor and the other pc stuff.

11-25-09, 08:03 PM	#11
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	man some you guys would flip out at the first piece of rust that appears on our u- boats, dont expect a free map with new shiny user guide then lol, As for less basic instruction yes because this might hinder the newcomers to the hunters series!! waste of man power and subs they more prone to KIA quickly and contibute less to our war effort, thus giving up and revertin back to thier all games consoles. Keep the small amount of knights crosses to be earned the hard way.

11-25-09, 09:49 PM	#13
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Use recycled paper....no trees were harmed in the making of this manual Sad to think that SH1...a 8 bit game that fit on, what, a 256kb floppy had a manual that was to die for. BUt yet if you look at SH4 it was printed on leftover paper from SH3 (the background picture on all the pages was of a Uboat...the same background image from the sH3 manual).

11-26-09, 01:41 AM	#15
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	the trees comment brings my bumper sticker to mind... "Erase your carbon footprint... Kill yourself you fu%$in' hippie." __________________