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Old 08-30-09, 01:25 AM   #1
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Hello All,

By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on.

On Wednesday, August 5th it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his healthcare and huge spending so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date.

On about Tuesday Bill found out that they would be holding the "Town Hall" at the airport. (This is only because Bill knows EVERYONE at the airport) Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you can not get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public.

FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/auditoriums). All of which have chairs and tables, and would not have to be SHIPPED IN!! $$$$$

During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly. Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession. $$$$$

Late Tuesday/early Wednesday the 12th, they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations and the president would be arriving around 12:30 Friday.

Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request. Hmmmm......900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.

This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation!!! And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think...with all of the traveling the White House is doing. $$$$$ One can only imagine what else we are paying for.

On Friday Bill and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama's spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union) members drove up onto the area (illegal)and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd.

The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them.....professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area)

Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man.

So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest.

If you are wondering about the press.....Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds.

We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho . Speaking of the local media...they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn't want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.

It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people that talked about their insurance woes........the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors...EVERYTHING was staged!!!!!!!!!!!

I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America , more like the USSR !! I was physically nauseous. Bill and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved. Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices again and again!! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC . Scary!!

Kathy
Bozeman , Montana
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Old 08-30-09, 02:12 AM   #2
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While I don't doubt that this has some grounding in facts, I am suspicious about anything written containing more hearsay than attributed proof and by an author who writes anonymously. This letter screams "fake" to me, and just feels manufactured by someone who wants to make it appear as though it's from an average Joe.
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Is that by any chance your second chain e-mail of the day?
What a surprise , it turns out to be false too.

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Old 08-30-09, 08:16 AM   #4
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I found a picture of "Kathy from Bozeman, MT":

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Dismiss and impune all you want.

I continue to hear this sort of thing from many sources not just Limbaugh.

Where there is smoke there is usually fire.
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Dismiss and impune all you want.
Thank you.

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I continue to hear this sort of thing from many sources not just Limbaugh.
Yes there is a lot of it about.

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Not really.
Think of these chain e-mails as a smoke machine, billowing out lots and lots of smoke on a regular basis but lacking any real fire.
 
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I continue to hear this sort of thing from many sources not just Limbaugh.
As have I... Fox News of course lol.

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Where there is smoke there is usually fire.
If that is indeed smoke... wait- it's fog.
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Hello All,

By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, *there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others **I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on.
*BS warning #1

**BS warning #2

Why stress your eyes by reading all of it, when it's pretty obvious from the few first sentences that this is utter and complete BS.

Come subman, you can do better than this.
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That'S what happens when you delete you cookie settings by mistake - you end up reading threads like this! Serves me right, then.
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Friggin spammers. get enough of this crap in my email.
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Spam, & Eggs>>Obama, & Spend my hard cash.

This is worth a re-read as it expresses what the majority of America believes.


Letter from Procter & Gamble Exec to Obama


Please read, even if you are an Obama fan. It is legitimate, written by respected, Lou Prichett, formerly of Proctor and Gamble. Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America 's true living legends- an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world's highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management. Lou changed the way

America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as "partnering. " Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _______

AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA



Dear President Obama:



You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.

You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.

You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.

You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.

You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.

You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don't understand it at its core.

You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.

You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail.



You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America' crowd and deliver this message abroad.

You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.

You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.

You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly
capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.

You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.

You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics against certain banks and corporations.

You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.

You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.

You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.

You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.

You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O'Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.

You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.

Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will
probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.


Lou Pritchett


TRUE - CHECK:
http://www.snopes. com/politics/ soapbox/youscare me.asp

This letter was sent to the NY Times but they never acknowledged it. Big surprise! Since it hit the internet, however, it has had over 500,000 hits. Keep it going. All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. It's happening right now.
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No it isn't, it was only worth reading the first time to look at Prichett making a ***** of himself
 
Old 08-30-09, 08:07 PM   #13
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*BS warning #1

**BS warning #2

Why stress your eyes by reading all of it, when it's pretty obvious from the few first sentences that this is utter and complete BS.

Come subman, you can do better than this.
I hear ya man, but I've already seen the news practically ignore the tea parties in some states, and outright ignore them altogether in others, so I can't agree with you. If the internet didn't exist, there is no telling how clamped down we would be right now.

We also know that Bush was an expert, and that Obama has taken to a new level the way to craft news.

I'm disenchanted with both parties now. I believe the above article. I wish you were in this country to feel it to.

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Would you belive first hand experience?

I went to the 'town hall' meeting they had here in my city. Ive spoken with family and friends accros the nation whom have done the same.

Contrived is much to subtle of a word.

Dismiss and impune all you want but something is afoot here. When ordinary citizens whom have the odasity to ask questions are labeled as 'nut jobs' it must give even the most liberal of you pause.

By the way I dont get any of these chain mails. Maybe you should take more care as to what mailing lists you get pegged to.
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When ordinary citizens whom have the odasity to ask questions are labeled as 'nut jobs' it must give even the most liberal of you pause.
Not really as 'nut jobs' isn't applied to just ordinary citizens asking questions, it is applied to the real fruitcakes .
It's true that the fruitcakes are just ordinary citizens, but they happen to be very deranged ordinary citizens.

It's simple really.
If a person has the audacity to ask a question of a politician about the proposed policies then they are an ordinary citizen asking a question.
If a person asks a question which isn't about the proposed policies but is about what they think the policies are then they are a misinformed ordinary citizen.
If a person rants about complete nonsense then they are a nut job.
People who cannot tell the difference between the three probably fall into the nut job category.
 
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