new shortcuts? (TMO)

DigitalAura · 08-16-09, 08:47 AM

just got TMO 1.7 runnin'... and it alters ALL the shortcut keys? Why?
All the "F1-F12" keys bring up different stations now. That's frustrating cuz I don't think it was really needed.
I've chosen 'Hard' as in my Pacific Campaign and now F11 does not take me to external camera... in fact, camera is GONE! Did they disable it in Maru or is HARD now REALLY HARD ?

JREX53 · 08-16-09, 09:35 AM

Ducimus redid the keyboard layout so that it is closer to the layout for SH3. He included a picture in his "Documentation" folder in the "Support" folder of the mod, along with the FAQ and a PDF file detailing the changes he has made.

DigitalAura · 08-16-09, 11:41 AM

ahh...thanks for that info! That'll be handy.

How bout the cams? Are they disabled now?

Armistead · 08-16-09, 02:52 PM

The previous and next cams no longer work, but in the readme on the support file it tells how to cut them back on. I think the misc tab works the external tab. The readme explains how to cut other things back on should you desire.

"11.) How do i get the next/ previous camera back?
The easiest way is to open the /data/cfg/commands.cfg in TMO. Search for " [Cmd50] " Your looking for these two blocks:
　
[Cmd50]
Name=Camera_on_next_unit
Ctxt=1
;Key0=0xBE,,">"
Page=0x34000000,3714
[Cmd51]
Name=Camera_on_prev_unit
Ctxt=1
;Key0=0xBC,,"<"
Page=0x34000000,3714
Simply remove the semicolon placed in front of the key assignment, and you have the next/previous cameras back. Note: this will restore hotkeys. It will not restore the buttons on the ordersbar."

I assume the layout is the same unless you've modded different, but . & , will work the next/prev options.

The goal of mods like TMO are to improve realism, to make the game harder, so buttons are given different functions. It's a matter of what your use to. Once you play the layout, you realize it's improved.

DigitalAura · 08-16-09, 06:30 PM

Thx Armistead. What about the follow behind camera for your sub. I like hitting it, as it takes you to the surface ... a bit of a cheat but I used it mostly to see the eye candy on the surface.... I feel like I'm missing a lot by not having it.

Rockin Robbins · 08-16-09, 06:52 PM

Actually the TMO keyboard layout is kind of unique in that it gives you access to the attack screen with F6. RFB, for instance, eliminated easy access because they are convinced the attack screen is of little or no use. You can load up TMOkeys to use with stock or any other mod, RFB, GFO or FOTRS and enjoy a much better keyboard layout than any other.

DigitalAura · 08-16-09, 07:59 PM

I'm beginning to get used to it...

But honestly... I really need some kind of external camera... I notice I do get 'cut scene' cams when under attack, but I miss the thrill of watching the DD's pass over me as I watch them toss in depth charges overhead.

Armistead · 08-16-09, 09:17 PM

Did you try the Misc button..click twice I think, not playing right now. However, before you start patrol, in the office go to the radio, game options and make sure you enable external cams as you would with stock. You must do it in the office for a campaign...playing single missions you can do it at the load in.

Adding the next previous cams back are easy, just follow direction I gave you....cams back.

I think what your calling the cut scenes cam is the event cam..you can enable of disable is in game options.

Rockin Robbins · 08-17-09, 05:29 AM

You definitely need to read the "readme that nobody friggin' reads." It contains all that you seek.

DigitalAura · 08-17-09, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

before you start patrol, in the office go to the radio, game options and make sure you enable external cams as you would with stock.

That's likely my problem then. I'll definitely have to restart my campaign again then. Thanks!

08-16-09, 08:47 AM	#1
DigitalAura Straight and True Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CANADA Posts: 276 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	new shortcuts? (TMO) just got TMO 1.7 runnin'... and it alters ALL the shortcut keys? Why? All the "F1-F12" keys bring up different stations now. That's frustrating cuz I don't think it was really needed. I've chosen 'Hard' as in my Pacific Campaign and now F11 does not take me to external camera... in fact, camera is GONE! Did they disable it in Maru or is HARD now REALLY HARD ?

08-16-09, 09:35 AM	#2
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	Ducimus redid the keyboard layout so that it is closer to the layout for SH3. He included a picture in his "Documentation" folder in the "Support" folder of the mod, along with the FAQ and a PDF file detailing the changes he has made. __________________ Jim

08-16-09, 06:52 PM	#6
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Actually the TMO keyboard layout is kind of unique in that it gives you access to the attack screen with F6. RFB, for instance, eliminated easy access because they are convinced the attack screen is of little or no use. You can load up TMOkeys to use with stock or any other mod, RFB, GFO or FOTRS and enjoy a much better keyboard layout than any other. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-17-09, 05:29 AM	#9
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	You definitely need to read the "readme that nobody friggin' reads." It contains all that you seek. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-16-09, 11:41 AM	#3
DigitalAura Straight and True Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CANADA Posts: 276 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	ahh...thanks for that info! That'll be handy. How bout the cams? Are they disabled now?

08-16-09, 02:52 PM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	The previous and next cams no longer work, but in the readme on the support file it tells how to cut them back on. I think the misc tab works the external tab. The readme explains how to cut other things back on should you desire. "11.) How do i get the next/ previous camera back? The easiest way is to open the /data/cfg/commands.cfg in TMO. Search for " [Cmd50] " Your looking for these two blocks: 　 [Cmd50] Name=Camera_on_next_unit Ctxt=1 ;Key0=0xBE,,">" Page=0x34000000,3714 [Cmd51] Name=Camera_on_prev_unit Ctxt=1 ;Key0=0xBC,,"<" Page=0x34000000,3714 Simply remove the semicolon placed in front of the key assignment, and you have the next/previous cameras back. Note: this will restore hotkeys. It will not restore the buttons on the ordersbar." I assume the layout is the same unless you've modded different, but . & , will work the next/prev options. The goal of mods like TMO are to improve realism, to make the game harder, so buttons are given different functions. It's a matter of what your use to. Once you play the layout, you realize it's improved.

08-16-09, 06:30 PM	#5
DigitalAura Straight and True Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CANADA Posts: 276 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Thx Armistead. What about the follow behind camera for your sub. I like hitting it, as it takes you to the surface ... a bit of a cheat but I used it mostly to see the eye candy on the surface.... I feel like I'm missing a lot by not having it.

08-16-09, 07:59 PM	#7
DigitalAura Straight and True Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CANADA Posts: 276 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I'm beginning to get used to it... But honestly... I really need some kind of external camera... I notice I do get 'cut scene' cams when under attack, but I miss the thrill of watching the DD's pass over me as I watch them toss in depth charges overhead.

08-16-09, 09:17 PM	#8
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Did you try the Misc button..click twice I think, not playing right now. However, before you start patrol, in the office go to the radio, game options and make sure you enable external cams as you would with stock. You must do it in the office for a campaign...playing single missions you can do it at the load in. Adding the next previous cams back are easy, just follow direction I gave you....cams back. I think what your calling the cut scenes cam is the event cam..you can enable of disable is in game options.