Russians have "air superiority" in Afghanistan

Skybird · 08-12-09, 05:08 AM

Ironic.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...87CPAD99V4QR00

(found at simHQ).

Lessons learned by Western nations? So far: none.

Onkel Neal · 08-12-09, 08:39 AM

I doubt the Russians have air superiority in Moscow

Kapitan · 08-12-09, 12:26 PM

Last time i checked neal aeropflot used boeing 777's insted of thier Ilushin and tupolev aircraft it does look wierd looking down at an airport and seeing boeing aircraft strewen accross a country that would never have allowed the use of such aircraft 15 years ago.

August · 08-12-09, 02:26 PM

There is a vast difference between air superiority and air supremacy. We have the latter...

Jimbuna · 08-12-09, 02:36 PM

Let the civilians fly in em if they're that stupid

August · 08-12-09, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Let the civilians fly in em if they're that stupid

Is that a couple of tank chassis underneath that thing?

08-12-09, 03:34 PM

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There is a vast difference between air superiority and air supremacy. We have the latter...

Ireland has air supremacy over the Taliban, it don't mean bugger all as the Taliban don't have an air-force. Iceland on the other hand does not have air supremcy over the Taliban so those banana growers had better get very worried about a fundamentalist Islamic invasion aiming to take over their geo-themal greenhouses and converting them to opium production to buy the latest AA missiles and targetting systems on the open/black/grey market.

Though as an aside, Britain had air superiority and air supremacy in the 6.....yet every operation in bandit country had to be carried out by air , from the simplest pizza delivery to the most complicated troop movent. It does get rather expensive.
In an insurgency it is control of the ground that matters not control of the air.
Come to think of it certain countries had complete air superiority and air supremacy over Cambodia, Laos and S. Vietnam....that turned out well didn't it

Hunter · 08-12-09, 03:52 PM

Next step will be renting old SU MiGs. May be in three years as soon as last operable F-22's antiradar skin will fade away.:rotfl:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...0903020_2.html

Jimbuna · 08-12-09, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Is that a couple of tank chassis underneath that thing?

It certainly looks like it

Hunter · 08-13-09, 02:18 AM

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It certainly looks like it

I harldy believe tank chassis belongs to the airplane herself, rather were used to remove damaged body from the run-way.

August · 08-13-09, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Ireland has air supremacy over the Taliban

No it doesn't. Obviously you don't have any military experience...

August · 08-13-09, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter

I harldy believe tank chassis belongs to the airplane herself, rather were used to remove damaged body from the run-way.

Well yeah, but it would be really cool to see tooling around the field...

08-13-09, 01:16 PM

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No it doesn't. Obviously you don't have any military experience...

Yes it does, this is a global war on terror and the aircorps has absolute dominance and control of its skies, since the Taliban and Al-Qaida doesn't have an airforce it cannot challenge the air supremacy of the Air Corps.

longam · 08-13-09, 03:10 PM

We don't call it-them-they terror or terrorist anymore.

TLAM Strike · 08-13-09, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yes it does, this is a global war on terror and the aircorps has absolute dominance and control of its skies, since the Taliban and Al-Qaida doesn't have an airforce it cannot challenge the air supremacy of the Air Corps.

I seem to recall AQ having a few planes at one point...

08-12-09, 05:08 AM	#1
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