Gate's arrest report

[SteamWake]

If your not familiar with the story this man Henry Louis Gates was arrrested after a neighbor noticed 'someone' breaking into his home and called the police.

Gates is claiming Racisim.

Read it and decide for yourself.

Personally I think this guy acted like an ass and probably should have been arrested.

Note the arrrest is for "loud and tumultious behaviour" and not breaking and entering.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...092gates1.html

[geetrue]

The professor must have said a few racial slurs himself ...

He had just completed a long journey from China back to his home ...

Have you ever completed a long journey and needed a rest? I have ...

The officer knew he had a live one and asked him to step outside, but the professor refused and went to get his ID to prove who he was.

The officer followed him inside without being asked inside and after the proof was
presented the words were exchanged with the professor following the
police officer to the door.

The professor must have (I was not there lol) came out onto the porch area and at that time they arrested him for disorderly conduct.

I don't see the police doing anything wrong in aswering the report of a burglery in progress or with asking if he can prove who he is?

After that things get a little cloudy ...

But to make it all the way to a presidential news conference ... now thats the real news ...

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by geetrue

But to make it all the way to a presidential news conference ... now thats the real news ...

When opportunity knocks...

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

If your not familiar with the story this man Henry Louis Gates was arrrested after a neighbor noticed 'someone' breaking into his home and called the police.

Gates is claiming Racisim.

Read it and decide for yourself.

Personally I think this guy acted like an ass and probably should have been arrested.

Note the arrrest is for "loud and tumultious behaviour" and not breaking and entering.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...092gates1.html

Yeah, I think the guy was probably acting like an ass, but the officer should have left after verifying that particular ass actually lived there.

One thing they never mention when they highlight that minorities are often singled out and stopped by police: minorties commit a much higher percentage of crime in relation to their percentage of the population.

The cop was just trying to do his job, if Gates would have simply cooperated, there would have been no problem.

I was really surprised to see Mr. Cool unload on the Cambridge police in his press conf.

Did Obama Go Too Far With Race Remark?

[Takeda Shingen]

I just wonder if there is anyone that the president is not good friends with. It seems that anyone who is mentioned is a 'close, personal friend' of his. The guy's Blackberry must be stretched to the limit.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I was really surprised to see Mr. Cool unload on the Cambridge police in his press conf.

Did Obama Go Too Far With Race Remark?

Espically when he had not facts or data to base his claims on.

I believe its called jumping to a conclusion.

He would have best served to either say nothing or that he dident know all the circumstances. But evidently this Gates fellow is an aquaintance of Barry's and the chance to 'expose racisisim' was just too tempting to overlook.

"Have some people wanted him to bring this up sooner?" asked civil rights activist, the Rev. Al Sharpton. "Of course, we have. But the timing had to be right. He had the courage to take a position at a time when he knows some people will disagree."

Activists need to stick together you know.

[Freiwillige]

Ive read that article and I know for a fact that popping off to the police and being uncooperative and verbally combative leads you to handcuffs regardless of race. Been there and done that!

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Ive read that article and I know for a fact that popping off to the police and being uncooperative and verbally combative leads you to handcuffs regardless of race. Been there and done that!

This should be all but obvious to most rational people.

Yet you wait and see what kind of circus the 'popular media' can make of this.

Barry's involvement in this was a very poor decision, an easy and I think wiser course would have been to abstain.

But his background and his 'friends' urge him otherwise.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

This should be all but obvious to most rational people.

Yet you wait and see what kind of circus the 'popular media' can make of this.

Barry's involvement in this was a very poor decision, an easy and I think wiser course would have been to abstain.

But his background and his 'friends' urge him otherwise.

agreed.

not to sound racist - GOD FORBID IM A WHITE GUY HERE but...

honestly its hard for me to understand why to this day black folks still cry "racism" every time things are not going smoothly for them.

it has become an excuse for them - a card they can play which draws automatic sympathy.

news flash folks... blacks and whites are equally capable of racism; sucks but its a fact.

racism will probably never be snuffed out.

however - i think - for the most part - most white people and most black people dont give a damn about race.

but each side has this fringe that draws a wedge between the rest of us.

you have to see past that.

i have read with interest every bit of information i can about this case.

on one hand... the professor could have avoided the whole situation by just cooperating with the officer and this whole mess would have been resolved without incident in about 180 seconds.

on the other hand... once the cop determined it was the guy's house he could have just as easily left the scene.

personally i think both parties are to blame.

i dont think anyone was racially profiled.

i would expect the officer to verify my ID if i were in my house and there had been such a burglary called in on my home.

I WOULD EXPECT IT!

my father had a friend of the family house sitting for him about a month ago... the whole place is crawling with security cameras. (they showed me this video)

this lady accidentally set off the burglar alarm and a BLACK sheriff responded, entered the residence and located this 50+ year old WHITE lady and pulled his gun on her.

once the situation was explained it was all good... but you didnt hear about it in the news!!!!

its because she didnt run out and cry to al sharpton about being white!

cry me a river folks.

the officer was doing his due diligence to protect the man's property - you would think the dumb ass would appreciate it.

[Aramike]

Obama, by condemning the cops' actions made a complete ass out of himself, and lowered the presidency to a level I hope he never does again. Be it right or wrong, POTUS should be far above such trivialities. The fact that Obama lowered himself to such instances combined with his personal race and racial tendencies demonstrates a bias I hope is not indicative of his administration.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

One thing they never mention when they highlight that minorities are often singled out and stopped by police: minorties commit a much higher percentage of crime in relation to their percentage of the population.

Oh there are racist cops out there, that's for sure. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be a cop and a certain racist mentality is very common among not just the cops themselves but the law enforcement agencies from top to bottom.

Also these cases of arresting people for "exchanging words with the police", "verbal insult" or "loud and unruly behavior" are pretty iffy. It's a pretty shadowy line that the cop makes a decision about on the spot in the heat of the moment. And of course when there is no footage of the incident the cops are trusted rather than the individuals. And in cases of cops using physical force they can also walk free even if they beat people up etc. if there is no hard evidence against them.

Strange how some freedom-lovin' americans would be so quick to give so much power basically to the government.

[Blacklight]

Rush Limbaugh was on the radio today as I was changing stations and he was talking about it. He was saying that "The guy probably deserved it. He was disrespecting an officer of the law obviously. We weren't there !"

Limbaugh is an idiot.
Sometimes I wonder if he actually believes half the crap that comes out of his mouth and it scares me that there are people who idolize him and hang on his every word.

[Blacklight]

Obama, by condemning the cops' actions made a complete ass out of himself, and lowered the presidency to a level I hope he never does again. Be it right or wrong, POTUS should be far above such trivialities. The fact that Obama lowered himself to such instances combined with his personal race and racial tendencies demonstrates a bias I hope is not indicative of his administration.

Bullcrap. Obama said what we all should say about it. His opinion shouldn't be censored just because he's the president. He should be able to voice his opinions regardless of his position.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Bullcrap. Obama said what we all should say about it. His opinion shouldn't be censored just because he's the president. He should be able to voice his opinions regardless of his position.

Umm, wrong. And an utterly silly concept.

The president, by the very nature of his office, needs to keep many opinions private as what he says can unduly influence policies. Oh, and not that you're biased about it or anything, as in one sentence you're referring to Obama's OPINION while in the other one you claim he said "what we should ALL say about it"...

Not to mention that Obama even admitted to not knowing all the facts of the case, and has since been backtracking a bit on his comments.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Bullcrap. Obama said what we all should say about it. His opinion shouldn't be censored just because he's the president. He should be able to voice his opinions regardless of his position.

I agree lay his agenda's and views out for all to see.