House passes 'global warming' legislation...

Is Germany ready to step up? You are now the world leader. Try not to execute too many people.

HOUSE PASSES 'GLOBAL WARMING' LEGISLATION...

[nikimcbee]

God save us all. I wonder how my industry is going to handle this? A semiconductor fab uses a hellva large amount of eletricity. I'll laugh my ass off, if every semiconductor company moves to India/China. That will wipe out the economy on the West Coast. Case in point: My former place of employment was the largest employer in the county (outside of working for local Gov't). The city/county fought them at every turn when they wanted to expand production, because of they're greenie-marxist ideology. The company decided it was time to close it's US fab and shut down last Aug. It was priceless to hear the local news bitch and moan about the millions of tax dollars that were now... no longer going to be coming in.


HA!HA! You @#!$$#@ing greenies are morons. and you get what you deserve for voting that jackass(es) in to office.



I need a drink

[SteamWake]

Dont give up hope yet. It still has to pass the senate.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

every semiconductor company moves to India/China.

This will exactly be the results seeing as those contries arent silly enough to follow the US and besides there exempt from this.

[SteamWake]

Good god !

Republicans accused the Democrats of ramming the bill through the House. Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.), managing the debate for his party, asked repeatedly if there was even a copy of the current version of the bill anywhere in the House chamber. Democratic Rep. Ellen Tauscher – sitting in the speaker’s chair although she’s already been confirmed as Obama’s undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security — repeatedly dodged the question.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24232.html

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Dont give up hope yet. It still has to pass the senate.

This is the worst of the worst....legislating poverty.

[geetrue]

New York Times

Only eight Republicans voted for the bill, which runs to more than 1,300 pages.

In the months of horse-trading leading to Friday’s vote, the bill’s targets for emissions were weakened, its mandate for renewable electricity was scaled back, and incentives for various industries from automobiles to natural gas were sweetened.

The bill grants a majority of the permits free in the early years of the program, to keep costs low. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the average American household would pay an additional $175 a year in energy costs by 2020 as a result of the provision, while the poorest households would end up with $40 in rebates.

The bill also sets a national standard of 20 percent for the production of renewable electricity by 2020, although a third of that could be met with efficiency measures rather than renewable energy sources like solar, wind and geothermal.

It also devotes billions of dollars to new energy projects and subsidies for low-carbon agricultural practices, clean-coal research and electric vehicle development.

How do you read 1,300 pages in just a few hours ... give US a break.

[UnderseaLcpl]

“I look forward to spending the next 100 years trying to fix this legislation,” said California Republican Brian Bilbray.

That about sums it up. Take it from a Californian, they've been there, done that, messed it all up, and ruined their state. Hopefully, the Senate will kill this thing.

What really perturbs me is how immune the dems are to empyrical evidence. Nearly a century of catastrophic failures by big government has done nothing to weaken their resolve.

[Buddahaid]

Anybody else been to China? It's great! On sunny days you can tell where sun is by noticing the somewhat brighter part of the inside of the pingpong ball of a sky. Any little creek or river in town smells like your arse. Point being there must be something better than banking our way to death. What do YOU suggest as a better alternative? I'm open to ideas.

Budahaid

[Skybird]

Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money. - Cree Prophecy

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money. - Cree Prophecy

"White mans greed runs a world in need" Jerimiah Wright, Barrack Obama



Im pretty sure there will be rivers and fish and trees long after the human race has moved on Sky.

We certainly can say your an optimist at least :rotfl:

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

"White mans greed runs a world in need" Jerimiah Wright, Barrack Obama



Im pretty sure there will be rivers and fish and trees long after the human race has moved on Sky.
:rotfl:

You'll know in time.

I just learned that house rules allow five days for it's members to change their votes. Who knew? Anyway with the vote being so close 219-212, and 8 repiblicans voting in favor of this 1,300 page bill which no one read, there is the possibility for the bill to fail. Here are their names and links.

HR 2454 RECORDED VOTE 26-Jun-2009 7:17 PM
BILL TITLE: American Clean Energy and Security Act


Mary Bono Mack R (CA)
Mike Castle R (DW)
Mark Steven Eirk R (IL)
Leonard Lance R (NJ)
Frank LoBiondo R (NJ)
John McHugh R (NY)
Dave Reichert R (WA)
Chris Smith R (NJ)

[XabbaRus]

Wea re facing the same thing in the UK. Energy prices are going to shoot up because of Broons green initiatives.

I believe in global warming and I believe man is contributing to it but I am also tired of the knee jerk reactions and half hearted measures.

The grants given out over here to transform your heating to solar are pitiful.

Case in point, on my street apart from my house and two neighbours the houses belong to a housing association. They rent to low income families (though they all seem to have flashier cars than me). Anyway teh housing association for free fits solar panels on the roofs.

Pisses me off.

[Frame57]

That is precisely the problem with the whole global warming hoax. They have the masses fooled just so that they can rape you monitarily and try to make you feel good about it while they do it. Not much different than what the health care scenario is. Total and complete nonsense with the whole cholesterol scam. But everyone I know over 50 is on a statin drug. Fear is the greatest motivator for mankind. I guess I expect too much from the educated man, but it seems that education was a moot point for the followers of the heavens gate cult. So nothing surprizes me anymore, but in the end you get what you pay for in life and this is what we got.