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Old 07-01-09, 06:35 PM   #1
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Default "The only chance we have...is for bin Laden to detonate a major weapon in the U.S."

This is the kind of crap that makes it on Glenn Beck these days. Michael Scheuer wishing for another terrorist attack on the United States:



Why do conservatives hate America?
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Hopefully it would go off underneath him. The man wants a police state.

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Even though I'm liberal, I'm not going to saddle conservatives with Michael Scheuer. He's not really conservative or liberal, he's just insanely focused on one issue (Al Qaeda) and totally blind to everything else that happens in the world.

Every once in a while he makes a good point, but it's always in support of downright scary conclusions.
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Did anyone actually watch it? Glenn Beck wasn't the one that suggested it, nor did he actually agree to it.

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Why do people jump to conclusion.

I did not see the episode but I assure you Mr. Beck does not hate America. Quite the contrary.

"He wants a police state" thats even more laughable. What a tilted perspective can be drawn from a little bit of knowledge.

In fact perhaps you should pick up his new book "Common Sense" perhaps it may enlighten you.
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The best way I saw this summed up:

If a major US city isn't destroyed, then the liberals will stay in charge, which could lead to another 9/11, so everyone pray for an attack, so conservatives can get back in charge, so that way their won't be an attack. Pray hard now, because even though the whole basis for this reasoning is that liberals make a terror attack inevitable, we have to be very scared of the consequences if there isn't one.

Oh, and at the end of this segment, Beck suggests that if Bin Ladin doesn't attack, its proof that he wants to keep the Democrats in power and neo-cons out.

So you see? If there's an attack, its proof Democrats are weak against Al-Qaeda. If there isn't an attack, its proof they're on the same side as Al-Qaeda.
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I really wish I had seen this in context.

I think its called trying to make a point.
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The best way I saw this summed up:

If a major US city isn't destroyed, then the liberals will stay in charge, which could lead to another 9/11, so everyone pray for an attack, so conservatives can get back in charge, so that way their won't be an attack. Pray hard now, because even though the whole basis for this reasoning is that liberals make a terror attack inevitable, we have to be very scared of the consequences if there isn't one.

Oh, and at the end of this segment, Beck suggests that if Bin Ladin doesn't attack, its proof that he wants to keep the Democrats in power and neo-cons out.

So you see? If there's an attack, its proof Democrats are weak against Al-Qaeda. If there isn't an attack, its proof they're on the same side as Al-Qaeda.
You are drawing a lot of incorrect conclusions from that video. Beck made no such statements and was careful not to side with this guys ideas.

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So you see? If there's an attack, its proof Democrats are weak against Al-Qaeda. If there isn't an attack, its proof they're on the same side as Al-Qaeda.
I believe the quote from Mr. Beck was "If I were him [Obama] that would be the last thing I would do right now".

Mr. Beck is not hoping for an attack nor does he infer that it would be 'proof' that the dems are on the same side as Al-Qaeda.

I think the point is that unless the american pepole wake the hell up were in deep trouble and Al-Qaeda wouldent want to wake them up.

Stunning simply stunning how this is taken out of context and spun to make Beck look like an anti american nut job.
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Why do people jump to conclusion.

I did not see the episode but I assure you Mr. Beck does not hate America. Quite the contrary.

"He wants a police state" thats even more laughable. What a tilted perspective can be drawn from a little bit of knowledge.

In fact perhaps you should pick up his new book "Common Sense" perhaps it may enlighten you.
Agreed, but it may not be the enlightenment you seek.

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Agreed, but it may not be the enlightenment you seek.

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Its the enlightenment I wish others would seek.
My best friend and drinking buddy is so far right that he makes Rush Limbaugh look liberal. I get all the enlightenment I need from him. We're like the odd couple.

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Stunning simply stunning how this is taken out of context and spun to make Beck look like an anti american nut job.
Context? What other context does there need to be. Glenn Beck has this guy on his show, gives him a forum to spout his trash that American civilians need to die because he's upset how the politics of the country are going, and Beck says nothing. Tacitly agrees with him by not calling him out on that statement. You can be sure that if it were my show, I'd stop the guy and say "....the HELL did you just say?" But no, Beck let's it go like it's a valid point.
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SteamWake, that's something we probably all could agree on here.

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This is the kind of crap that makes it on Glenn Beck these days. Michael Scheuer wishing for another terrorist attack on the United States:



Why do conservatives hate America?

Not all of them, just the loudest, the ones who make their living on talk radio.
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Context? What other context does there need to be. Glenn Beck has this guy on his show, gives him a forum to spout his trash that American civilians need to die because he's upset how the politics of the country are going, and Beck says nothing. Tacitly agrees with him by not calling him out on that statement. You can be sure that if it were my show, I'd stop the guy and say "....the HELL did you just say?" But no, Beck let's it go like it's a valid point.
At least he let him speak his point without shouting him out. Let them hang themselves and then give your rebuttal. I hate when the guest is just meat to jump all over, and not allowed their point.

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